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This thread is dedicated to the lil' rascal EMC ... hahah, this is a joke, the Russian social democrats have elected a joker to head their movement ... LMAO! A guy who first efficiently destroyed Soviet Union, destroyed it economy, compounded the Afghanistan War, and is generally disliked by most Russians for his many failures. Hail to the Russian social/liberal democrats! Elected with a majority, Gorbachev is to head movement to oppose Putin shows how weak and dumb the liberal agenda is in Russia - to nominate idiots to bring back the country to the past years of economic and political disaster, which Gorbachev was well known for.
Gorbachev is nothing more than an incapable politician, IMO. Why was he chosen to lead this doomed movement, I have no idea. Good thing is that he's not running for the elections later on this year, because he was embarassed at the 2003 elections where he couldn't even win one seat.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/200710...-ee974b3_1.html
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Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev founded a new political movement on Saturday aimed at fighting democratic abuses in Russia, but not at challenging President Vladimir Putin's rule.
"We are putting our hopes in the efforts that Putin is making" to reform Russia, Gorbachev told some 200 delegates at the founding congress of the Union of Social-Democrats in central Moscow.
But Gorbachev, 76, who will lead the movement, also highlighted "negative tendencies," including a lack of real political debate, pressure being put on non-governmental groups and high levels of corruption.
"We are fighting for power, but only for power over people's minds," said Gorbachev.
His new movement is not a political party and will therefore not take part in parliamentary elections in December.
United Russia, the dominant party in the Russian parliament, is set for a landslide victory in the elections after Putin announced earlier this month that he would run as its top candidate.
The deadline for parties to register for the elections passed on October 17.
A statement issued by the movement said that "the potential for free democratic choice and political competition is being limited.... This is why social-democrats are uniting to fight for the values of freedom and fairness."
Gorbachev was the last general secretary of the Communist Party and is generally unpopular in Russia as he is associated with a period of political upheaval and economic collapse.
After his attempts at reforming Communism fell through and the Soviet Union broke apart in 1991, he became head of the Russian Social-Democratic Party, which failed to win any seats in the 2003 parliamentary elections.
He has received numerous awards in the West and is a frequent speaker at international events. He has a more visible public role in Russia as head of the Gorbachev Foundation, which funds charity and education.
In his speech on Thursday, Gorbachev praised Putin for not changing the country's constitution to allow himself to run for a third consecutive term, when his period in office runs out next year.
"The president was under pressure and the fact that he did not give in to it is important from the point of view of democracy," Gorbachev said, referring to calls for Putin to change the constitution.
Putin, who came to power in 2000, remains very popular in Russia as he is credited with the country's economic revival and with boosting Russia's role in world affairs.
Russians are to elect a new president in March 2008 but there is still uncertainty about what role Putin could play in Russia's political future and who his favoured successor might be.
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Someone told me that in Russia, there are good parties that can do things better for Russia ... like Kasparov's OTHER RUSSIA party - the ones that many people in the West think is the true democratic party in Russia, and crackdown on its often questionable and illegal activities is un-democratic. LOL, what a joke that was, I found some very incriminating information against that party that I would love to share. BTW, these idiots will try to win some votes in the upcoming Paliamentary elections in Russia.
Source: Radio Free Europe - very reliable
http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticl...2242a0c539.html
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Exiled Tycoon Funds Russian Opposition Coalition
Exiled Russian tycoon and Kremlin critic Boris Berezovsky claimed that he is helping fund Other Russia, an opposition coalition led by former chess champion Garry Kasparov.
In an article published today in the British newspaper "Financial Times," the London-based billionaire said Russian President Vladimir Putin is a "real danger to the West."
But an aide to Kasparov, Denis Belunov, told the BBC today that Other Russia has no ties with Berezovsky.
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The same Berezovsky who in 1990s made billions of illegal activities that he made from selling Russia away, then funding Putin's and Yeltsin's elections campaigns, and much criticism he received in 1990s as part of Yeltsin's inner circle. And the accusations made against him for breaking laws and ordering the murders of people. Accused of embezzling a lot of money, wanted for extradition in Russia and Brazil.
There's a lot of criticism for Russia banning and refusing these parties like Other Russia (which hasnt been banned yet, though their actions are very negative on the population) ... but how come there's no criticism of this below party which was also banned from participating in upcoming elections, the National Bolshevik Party ... OH NO, ITS VERY UNDEMOCRATIC TO BAN A ED UP RADICAL PARTY!
http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticl...17def9bcab.html
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The Moscow City Court has declared the opposition National Bolshevik Party to be an extremist organization.
The ruling late on April 19 allows the authorities to make it illegal to publicly support the party.
A lawyer representing the party, Sergei Belyak, said the National Bolsheviks will appeal the ruling.
Russian authorities had already banned the group. The move follows a recent police crackdown on antigovernment protests in Moscow and St. Petersburg, which the National Bolshevik Party, as well as members of the Other Russia coalition, had played a role in organizing.
On April 19, the pro-Kremlin youth movement Nashi said it will campaign to have the opposition group Other Russia labelled as "extremist."
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Check out these images of this party, and tell me what is it so reminiscent of - this is not a joke, its a REAL PARTY with thousands of followers in Russia - look at their sleeves:
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/1965120.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A6712B9B789861F5989930FDCFC4C15FBB
Guess who was at their rallies and supported them? You know it - Garry Kasparov and his gang - check him out with the leader of the National Bolshevik Party, both were together, both parties together demostrating and marching in the streets! PRICELESS!
http://www.viewimages.com/Search.as...&partner=Google
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Viewimages.com doesnt allow to hotlink images, so I could not post direct links, but this is the best one. On the link, scroll down until you get to a pic of two formidable guys, one with glasses, and you'll see: The guy on the left is Kasparov, the leader of Other Russia party. The guy on the right wearing glasses and looking a lot like Trotsky is actully Mr. Limonov, the leader of the lunatic NATIONAL BOLSHEVIK PARTY!!! Hahahah ... you gotta be ing joking me.. BAN BOTH PARTIES!!! EMC^, yo, DAWG, here's your democratic heroes, give them please your best imitation of a Nazi salute for me! Thanks! ROFL LMAO ...
The guy with glasses SOOOOOOO looks like Trotsky, he's the head of the Bolshevik Party, Mr. Limonov ... its friggin scary!!!
More goodies:
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/1965...930FDCFC4C15FBB
http://www.viewimages.com/Search.as...&partner=Google
The main point is - quite bullting me guys. Putin is the only choice for Russia. All other candidates are dirty, I can find the beef on them if I had the time. All of them deserve the harsh treatment, because they support the use of force and violence to achieve the seize of power. The only other "real" liberal party in Russia that can somewhat portray Western values is "Yabloko", but they have weak and ineffective leadership. These guys do get to win some votes in every elections, and in the uppcoming parliamentary elections they should get some seats. I have compassion for this party, but seriously, listening to their leader's agenda and goals and speeches (Mr Yavlinskiy) is like listening to some boring dumb dimwhit talk. No offense.
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Fock. Viewimages.com messed up the links from my previous post so I have to continue here. Basically, Kasparov went from a very respectable, admirable gentleman who had good image and standing in Russia to someone who lost a screw in his head somewhere. Nowadays Berezovsky claims he funds his party, Kasparov finds himself touring with the Bolshevik Party, amid other controversy. I felt like adding some BETTER pictures of Kasparov, the leader of Other Russia party which has caused so much havoc and outcry - in the West there's been much criticism of Putin and Russia for clamping down on Kasparov and his anti-government, radical movement that has been involved in serious altercations with government, police and they have a habit of carrying out illegal marches that end up with police scuffles (which is called Russia returning to dictatorship - while its the demonstrators fault for doing an illegal march).
Also, what makes it more illegal is that Kasparov supports and hangs out with clear and true radicals - which the Western media clearly ignores and doesnt say WAIT, KASPAROV IS HAND IN HAND WITH RADICAL BOLSHEVIKS, like the National Bolshevik Party, which has adjusted its logo to look a lot like the Nazi Party logo. Below are better images I cropped out from ViewImages.com photos which I couldn't link to because the bastard website does not allow links to specific photos, so check these out. The guy on the left is Garry Kasparov. The guy on the right in the glasses that looks so much like Trotsky is Mr. Limonov, the leader of National Bolshevik Party.
^ The second from the left on top row guy is Trotsky, one of the main guys behind the genius of Bolshevik revolution who was later put down by Stalin who feared the latter would overthrow him.
Kasparov in the good days in his more useful role:
His new best friend, Mr. Limonov:
How convenient - these radical ******s used the murder of Politkovskaya to further their radical agenda - protesting in front of her portrait - how ironic that the same Bolsheviks murdered millions of people who spoke out against the commies ... hypocrites? BTW, Kasparov is in this photo, too!
A different time when Limonov and Kasparov hang out together:
^ Kasparov, with similar gestures and speeches to his Bolshevik counterparts.
Turing together across the country.
So haaaaappppy togeeeetherrrr.
Kasparov, Limonov and other gang members speaking out at a conference about the beauty of their scary agenda of smashing Putin's progress and instead taking up the previously failed methods ...
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So if you guys support Kasparov and help him come to power, you can be sure he'd hire his old friend Mr. Limonov to supervise and establish "security" in the country ... courtesy of hot broads like this one:
You can be sure that this sexy Russian lady will make sure you'd never think of anything other than Bolshevik ever again. And you'd like it, or you'll eat a bullet instead. Gotta admit she's very hot. She's holding a manual book on how to completely brainwash and terrorize the entire country in the repeat of another Soviet saga of another 70 years of oppression. |
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| That guy has a sweet beard! I'd vote him in! |
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HOLY SH*T that cat looks like Trotsky!
yeah, he's going places:haha: |
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where do i sign up? |
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where do i sign up? |
:haha: :haha: :haha:
Lets just say I have very good internet search skills (according to my resume)
Check out this link, you'll like it, nice beats playing in the background
http://www.kgbswimwear.com/
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| guess i gotta re-new my passport. dayum!!!! |
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guess i gotta re-new my passport. dayum!!!! |
and the lord said:
whoa!!??? what the is a platypus??
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OK, time to unleash more truth about these "fat cats" who were allegedly "illegally" and "undemocratically" arrested and imprisoned by Putin government.
Here's one, about the famous imprisoned oligarch Khodorkovskiy, one of many in line who are now in prison, who like Berezovskiy, made their billions in 1990s illegally ripping off and raping the country of its funds and abusing their people and power. I am glad that the justice is now served over one of those fockers:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index....ext=va&aid=3408
on that page, see the section:
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The real significance of the Yukos Affair
The defining event in the new Russian energy geopolitics under Vladimir Putin took place in 2003. It was just as Washington was making it brutally clear it was going to militarize Iraq and the Middle East, regardless of world protest or UN niceties.
A brief review of the spectacular October 2003 arrest of Russia’s billionaire ‘oligarch’ Mikhail Khodorkovsky, and state seizure of his giant Yukos oil group, is essential to understand Russian energy geopolitics.
Khodorkovsky was arrested at Novosibirsk airport on October 25, 2003, by the Russian Prosecutor General's office on charges of tax evasion. The Putin government froze shares of Yukos Oil because of tax charges. They then took further actions against Yukos, leading to a collapse in the share price.
What was little mentioned in Western media accounts, which typically portrayed the Putin government actions as a reversion to Soviet-era methods, was what had triggered Putin’s dramatic action in the first place.
Khodorkovsky had been arrested just four weeks before a decisive Russian Duma or lower house election, in which Khodorkovsky had managed to buy the votes of a majority in the Duma using his vast wealth. Control of the Duma was to be the first step by Khodorkovsky in a plan to run against Putin the next year as President. The Duma victory would have allowed him to change election laws in his favor, as well as to alter a controversial law being drafted in the Duma, ‘The Law on Underground Resources.’ That law would prevent Yukos and other private companies from gaining control of raw materials in the ground, or from developing private pipeline routes independent of the Russian state pipelines.
Khodorkovsky had violated the pledge of the Oligarchs made to Putin, that they be allowed to keep their assets--de facto stolen from the state in the rigged auctions under Yeltsin--if they stayed out of Russian politics and repatriated a share of their stolen money. Khodorkovsky, the most powerful oligarch at the time, was serving as the vehicle for what was becoming an obvious Washington-backed putsch against Putin.
The Khodorkovsky arrest followed an unpublicized meeting earlier that year on July 14, 2003 between Khodorkovsky and Vice President Dick Cheney.
Following the Cheney meeting, Khodorkovsky began talks with ExxonMobil and ChevronTexaco, Condi Rice’s old firm, about taking a major state in Yukos, said to have been between 25% and 40%. That was intended to give Khodorkovsky de facto immunity from possible Putin government interference by tying Yukos to the big US oil giants and, hence, to Washington. It would also have given Washington, via the US oil giants, a de facto veto power over future Russian oil and gas pipelines and oil deals. Days before his October 2003 arrest on tax fraud charges, Khodorkovsky had entertained George H.W. Bush, the representative of the powerful and secretive Washington Carlyle Group in Moscow. They were discussing the final details of the US oil company share buy-in of Yukos.
Yukos had also just made a bid to acquire rival Sibneft from Boris Berezovsky, another Yeltsin-era Oligarch. YukosSibneft, with 19.5 billion barrels of oil and gas, would then own the second-largest oil and gas reserves in the world after ExxonMobil. YukosSibneft would be the fourth largest in the world in terms of production, pumping 2.3 million barrels of crude oil a day. The Exxon or Chevron buy-up of YukosSibneft would have been a literal energy coup d’etat. Cheney knew it; Bush knew it; Khodorkovsky knew it.
Above all, Vladimir Putin knew it and moved decisively to block it.
Khodokorvsky had cultivated very impressive ties to the Anglo-American power establishment. He created a philanthropic foundation, the Open Russia Foundation, modelled on the Open Society foundation of his close friend George Soros. On the select board of Open Russia Foundation sat Henry Kissinger and Kissinger’s friend, Jacob Lord Rothschild, London scion of the banking family. Arthur Hartman, a former US Ambassador to Moscow, also sat on the foundation’s board.
Following Khodorkovsky's arrest, the Washington Post reported that the imprisoned Russian billionaire had retained the services of Stuart Eizenstat - former deputy Treasury Secretary, Undersecretary of State, Undersecretary of Commerce during the Clinton Administration - to lobby in Washington for his freedom. Khodorkovsky was in deep with the Anglo-American establishment.
Subsequent western media and official protest about Russia’s return to communist methods and raw power politics, conveniently ignored the fact that Khodorkovsky was hardly Snow White himself. Earlier, Khodorkovsky had unilaterally ripped up his contract with British Petroleum. BP had been a partner with Yukos, and had spent $300 million in drilling the highly promising Priobskoye oil field in Siberia.
Once the BP drilling had been done, Khodorkovsky forced BP out, using gangster methods that would be unlawful in most of the developed world. By 2003 Priobskoye oil production reached 129 million barrels, equivalent to a value on the market of some $8 billions. Earlier, in 1998, after the IMF had given billions to Russia to prevent a collapse of the Ruble, Khodokorvosky’s Bank Menatep diverted an eye-popping $4.8 billion in IMF funds to his hand-picked bank cronies, some US banks among them. The howls of protest from Washington at the October 2003 arrest of Khodorkovsky were disingenuous, if not outright hypocritical. As seen from the Kremlin, Washington had been caught with its fat hand in the Russian cookie jar.
The Putin-Khodorkovsky showdown signalled a decisive turn by the Putin government towards rebuilding Russia and erecting strategic defenses from the foreign onslaught led by Cheney and friend Tony Blair in Britain. It took place in the context of a brazen US grab for Iraq in 2003 and of a unilateral Bush Administration announcement that the USA was abrogating its solemn treaty obligations with Russia under their earlier Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty, in order to go ahead with development of US missile defenses, an act which could only be viewed in Moscow as a hostile act aimed at her security.
By 2003, indeed, it took little strategic military prowess to realize that the Pentagon hawks and their allies in the military industry and Big Oil had a vision of a United States unfettered by international agreements and acting unilaterally in its own best interests, as defined, of course, by the hawks. Their recommendations were published by one of the many Washington hawk conservative Think-Tanks. In January 2001 The National Institute for Public Policy (NIPP) issued Rationale and Requirements for U.S. Nuclear Forces and Arms Control, just as the Bush-Cheney Administration began. The report, demanding a unilateral US end to nuclear force reduction, was signed by 27 senior officials from past and current administrations. The list included the man who today is Bush’s National Security Adviser, Stephen Hadley; it included the special assistant to the Secretary of Defense, Stephen Cambone, and it included Admiral James Woolsey, the former head of CIA and chairman of the Washington NGO, Freedom House. Freedom House played a central role in Ukraine’s US-sponsored ‘Orange Revolution’ and all other ‘Color Revolutions’ across the former Soviet Union.
These events were soon followed by the Washington-financed series of covert destabilizations of a number of governments in Russia’s periphery which had been close to Moscow. It included the November 2003 ‘Rose Revolution’ in Georgia which ousted Edouard Shevardnadze in favour of a young, US-educated and pro-NATO President, Mikheil Saakashvili. The 37-year-old Saakashvili had conveniently agreed to back the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline that would avoid Moscow pipeline control of Azerbaijan’s Caspian oil. The United States has maintained close ties with Georgia since President Mikheil Saakashvili has come to power. American military trainers instruct Georgian troops and Washington has poured millions of dollars into preparing Georgia to become part of NATO.
Following its Rose Revolution in Georgia, Woolsey’s Freedom House, the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), Soros Foundation and other Washington-backed NGOs organized the brazenly provocative November 2004 Ukraine ‘Orange Revolution.’ The aim of the Orange Revolution was to install a pro-NATO regime there under the contested Presidency of Viktor Yushchenko, in a land strategically able to cut the major pipeline flows from Russian oil and gas to Western Europe. Washington-backed ‘democratic opposition’ movements in neighboring Belarus also began receiving millions of dollars of Bush Administration largesse, along with Kyrgystan, Uzbekistan and more remote former Soviet states which also happen to form a barrier between potential energy pipelines linking China with Russia and the former Soviet states like Kazkhstan..
Again, energy and oil and gas pipeline control lay at the heart of the US moves. Little wonder, perhaps, that some people inside the Kremlin, notably Vladimir Putin, began to wonder if Putin’s new born-again Texan partner-in-prayer, George W. Bush, was in fact speaking to Putin with forked tongue, as the Indians would say.
By the end of 2004 it was clear in Moscow that a new Cold War, this one over strategic energy control and unilateral nuclear primacy, was fully underway. It was also clear from the unmistakeable pattern of Washington actions since the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, that End Game for USA policy vis-à-vis Eurasia was not China, not Iraq, and not Iran.
The geopolitical ‘End Game’ for Washington was the complete de-construction of Russia, the one state in Eurasia capable of organizing an effective combination of alliances using its vast oil and gas resources. That, of course, could never be openly declared.
After 2003 Putin and Russian foreign policy, especially energy policy, reverted to their basic response to the ‘Heartland’ geopolitics of Sir Halford Mackinder, politics which had been the basis of Soviet Cold War strategy since 1946.
Putin began to make a series of defensive moves to restore some tenable form of equilibrium in face of the increasingly obvious Washington policy of encircling and weakening Russia. Subsequent US strategic blunders have made the job a bit easier for Russia. Now, with the stakes rising on both sides—NATO and Russia—Putin’s Russia has moved beyond simple defense to a new dynamic offensive, to secure a more viable geopolitical position, using its energy as the lever.
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