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Perfecting beat matching..
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| DjSway |
So I've been bedroom djing for a while but still not have perfected my beat matching. I won't train wreck but I tend to make adjustments as I bring up the 2nd song.
Besides lots of practice, are there any particular steps I should do to make a perfect beat match?
Someone told me that if the songs are still matched within the 3rd bar (32 beats) in your headphones then your good. |
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| EvilTree |
It may be not you. Some tracks slip a little because of poor production or whatever.
As long as you catch the tunes drifting right away, your transition won't sound so bad |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjSway
Someone told me that if the songs are still matched within the 3rd bar (32 beats) in your headphones then your good. |
not necessarily true. just keep practicing. an exercise i do a lot that first occurred out of boredom is cueing up and mixing out of tracks quickly and often when the next appropriate phrase approaches. it forces me to beatmatch as quickly as possible while listening to the phrasing of the outgoing track at the same time. mixes might sound muddy but that's what the EQ's are for. (i also spin tech/deep house so it usually sounds good mashed up since there's often fewer elements in tech/deep productions)
do you use CDJs or TT's? some MP3's (even from beatport on occasion) are just flawed, they never beatmatch correctly. it happens a lot more with vinyl rips. |
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| the_gamemaster |
| Theres nothing wrong with riding the pitch. A lot of DJs just get the tempos relatively matched then ride the pitch as they mix as it gives them time to do other things. As long as you can correct before the crowd notice its fine. It could also be your turntables causing the tracks to drift out of sync. |
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| sterilis |
| quote: | Originally posted by the_gamemaster
It could also be your turntables causing the tracks to drift out of sync. |
yea i found this with when i used kams. i was forever riding the pitch on them. they would stay in sync for 5 seconds tops. on my cdjs though i rarely have to adjust. a slight touch on the platter solves it. |
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| s3nate |
| Get better turntables (if you have crappy ones) and just pracetice practice! |
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| Dojomaster26 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_Blue
not necessarily true. just keep practicing. an exercise i do a lot that first occurred out of boredom is cueing up and mixing out of tracks quickly and often when the next appropriate phrase approaches. it forces me to beatmatch as quickly as possible while listening to the phrasing of the outgoing track at the same time. mixes might sound muddy but that's what the EQ's are for. (i also spin tech/deep house so it usually sounds good mashed up since there's often fewer elements in tech/deep productions)
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+1. This is a fun way to practice, and maybe you'll end up with a neat "megamix" at the end of it? |
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| DjSway |
| I use cd's, I hvn't mastered pitch riding yet so I'm touching the platter (on the CDJ 1000). |
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| MERiDiAN5i2 |
| What matters most is getting good at making corrections on the fly. Lots of media just plain sucks, doesn't matter if it's vinyl or CDs, more often than not there's going to be small timing variations that require adjustment. Riding the pitch fader is an important skill to have; your less likely to screw up like you can do touching the platter and the adjustments you make are more subtle. |
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| DjSway |
| quote: | Originally posted by MERiDiAN5i2
What matters most is getting good at making corrections on the fly. Lots of media just plain sucks, doesn't matter if it's vinyl or CDs, more often than not there's going to be small timing variations that require adjustment. Riding the pitch fader is an important skill to have; your less likely to screw up like you can do touching the platter and the adjustments you make are more subtle. |
Thanks I'll do that and hopefully have it on point without needing to adjust.
I think I just have to be patient while I'm mixing. |
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| Ryan0751 |
You can never really count on not having to adjust, it's just part of the whole art, once you get your ears trained your adjustments will be teeny-tiny... to the point where other DJ's shouldn't even be able to tell you did anything.
I ride the pitch on my 1200's, but on my CDJ-1000's I use the platter. |
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| Omega_Blue |
if you're using CDJ1000's at %.02, you should rarely have to bend the pitch of your tracks imo (depending on how long you spend mixing a transition). even at %.05 you should be ok. it's probably just your ears. practice practice practice. also the chances of you having ty ripped MP3's that you'll have to pitch-correct increases greatly if you're not downloading your music legally (i.e. beatport).
may i ask how long you've been spinning for?
edit: also you may just be over-correcting when you pitch bend with the cdj platter. try just flicking the outside edge of the platter until the tracks match together instead of gripping the edge and turning it 90 degrees or whatever. i see a lot of piocdj-dj's (rendundant) do that, then they have to re-correct by spinning backwards, and the endless cycle of trainwreck continues. |
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