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HardTranceProd
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autism cases have increased due to the fact that women and men are waiting longer to have kids. well, its just a correlation.



i also have this theory: what about the fact that Americans are freaked out by anything and anybody that doesn't conform 100%?
Renegade
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Originally posted by HardTranceProd
autism is a genetic disorder, has nothing to do with parenting


I wouldn't be so sure about that. I don't think that "bad parenting" in and of itself can directly cause autism (there is a genetic cause, most likely: can't find any stats at the moment, but I can remember reading that caucasian Americans are far more likely to be autistic than Americans of other races) but I think there's a case that can be made for "bad parenting" either potentiating autism epigenetically or at least vastly exacerbating the problem.

There's a psychologist called Stanley Greenspan who deals primarily with autistic children in his work and he wrote a book about the origin of human consciousness - The First Idea - which discusses the nature of austism at length. Basically, Greenspan believes that higher brain functions (language, reason, impulse control etc.) are not completely innate but are rather developed during childhood through "co-reciprocated emotional interaction" with parents and other people. Children that are either denied or incapable of emotional interaction will grow up stilted not just emotionally, but intellectually as well. If children with a predisposition to autism can be identified early and be made, with the right therapy, to learn to associate emotions with - at first - basic actions and words and - later on - with more complex forms of social interaction, then the worst symptoms can be avoided. The real point in regards to this discussion, though, is that he finds a correlation between what he calls "multiproblem families" (make of that what you will) and the severity of the autistic child's symptoms and prospects for recovery.

If this is all accurate, then bad parenting won't cause autism, but it can certainly make it a more severe problem.
ams.rld
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Originally posted by HardTranceProd
i also have this theory: what about the fact that Americans are freaked out by anything and anybody that doesn't conform 100%?


I have a theory. You are an idiot and need to get out more and stop watching so much tv or surfing the internet.
HardTranceProd
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Originally posted by ams.rld
I have a theory. You are an idiot and need to get out more and stop watching so much tv or surfing the internet.


I would be happy if you take your own advice.
One less idiot lurking here is exactly what this forum needs.
ams.rld
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Originally posted by HardTranceProd
I would be happy if you take your own advice.
One less idiot lurking here is exactly what this forum needs.

your sig says it all. You are a loser and rather than spending so much time with your "internet friends" it would be psychologically best for you to go out and make real friends. Good luck:)
NeoPhono
Although I don't think there is an "outbreak," there does seem to be a rise in the number of people with autism. There are quite a few interesting discussions as to why...here's a fun one:

Breastfeeding vs. Formula

The biggest rise in autism numbers is probably due to it being more often diagnosed, as well as the criteria for autism also being broadened. Now, people talk about "autism spectrum disorders" instead of simply autistic or non-autistic. It's analogous to depression or ADD. Have the number of people who are depressed or have ADD dramatically risen in the past decade? No...but since the definition of both have been broadened more people are diagnosed as depressed or having ADD. Same thing with autism. How many people now say they have Asperger's to some degree? Most of the rising cases of autism are in people that are fully functional. It's hard to find a huge increase in those with full autism.

For example...here are a few youtube videos of people with some form of autism spectrum disorder...they may be a little socially incompetent, but people like that have been around forever. It's just now they are diagnosed, so now we have more people that are deemed autistic than people that just don't do well socially (as they would have been classified in the past).








That last guy especially...10 years ago there's no way he'd be diagnosed with anything other than possibly a social dysfunction.
nchs09
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Originally posted by Moral Hazard
The correlation is coincidental... countries in which people are waiting longer to have children also have a better established medical system with more access to persons properly qualified to diagnose and or treat autism.
well at 40 or so the eggs and sperm begin to deteriorate which is a reason why children are born with autism and other desises.
Moral Hazard
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Originally posted by nchs09
well at 40 or so the eggs and sperm begin to deteriorate which is a reason why children are born with autism and other desises.


While that may be true, persons over the age of 40 are no more likely to have an autistic child then are their younger counterparts.
NeoPhono
http://www.msnbc.com/modules/newswe...ent/default.asp


Interesting quiz. Maybe you have some form of ASD and didn't know it.



I got a 16, so I guess I'm OK.
ams.rld
I got a 27 so I am ok as well. But is this test accurate doc?

Moral Hazard
The test is crap. A) a series of questions is insufficient to diagnose a disorder of this type, and B) if you can complete the tests then, even if you are autistic, you're functioning at a sufficiently high level as to make a diagnosis of autism irrelavent.
nchs09
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Originally posted by Moral Hazard
While that may be true, persons over the age of 40 are no more likely to have an autistic child then are their younger counterparts.


http://www.news-medical.net/?id=19843

http://www.ndri.com/news/autism_ris..._age_40-56.html

http://health.dailynewscentral.com/...iew/0002409/49/

http://pediatrics.jwatch.org/cgi/co...ull/2006/1011/2

http://www.narsad.org/news/press/rg...2006-09-20.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006...in1970863.shtml

etc..
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