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Leon Oziel
I'm comparing a two clips of a bar I exported, and for some reason the 24bit undithered 44khz clip sounds a bit better than the 16bit dithered 44khz. Am I imagining it? I see the waveforms take a different shape, but I never stopped to think how I export the wave the way I do.

What the heck is going on :S?
derail
24 bit will sound a bit different. Because of the much finer volume gradations, things like reverb tails should decay more smoothly. Some mastering engineers will want you to provide a 24 bit version of your track (if you go for external mastering).

I'd say, if you have a powerful enough system to run in 24 bit, you may as well do it. The final 16 bit CD version will sound better for having all the elements/ effects at 24 bit beforehand. (Of course, there could be some 16 bit samples mixed in there too, which isn't a big issue. They won't benefit from running in 24 bit, but if they're good samples, they'll do just fine)

Overall though, don't get too hung up on bit rates (or sample rates, for that matter). The difference it will make to your sound is unbelievably small, compared with engineering and production skills. There are 16bit, 44.1kHz tracks which sound far superior to anything I've put together at higher bit or sample rates.

So, if you have the computing power, switch to 24 bit. But then forget about that side of things and focus on more important issues.
Sanguis Mortuum
24bit sounds better than 16bit? Well...duh...
DigiNut
Most likely possibility is that it's clipped to , which is a lot more audible when exporting at a lower bit depth. Have you checked your levels?
echosystm
quote:
Originally posted by palm
ive started to export finished tracks in reason 24bit/48kHz.


don't export at 48khz unless you're putting it on dvd. cutting back to 44,100 for cd can be unpredictable.
Massive84
quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
don't export at 48khz unless you're putting it on dvd. cutting back to 44,100 for cd can be unpredictable.



And arn't sound systems 44khz configured?
Eldritch
quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
don't export at 48khz unless you're putting it on dvd. cutting back to 44,100 for cd can be unpredictable.


I agree. I recommend 88.2kHz if one requires a higher samplerate, because it's exactly twice the rate of 44.1kHz so it converts better.
But I don't see the point for that either to be honest.
44.1kHz is fine.
Zombie0729
i bounce 24/88.2 as well.
echosystm
88,200 -> 44,100 is better than 48k or 96k to 44.1k, but you're still going to get unnecessary differences (loss) from what you expected. Not worth it IMO! Best to work in the format it will end up in.
thecYrus
actually exporting at any higher sampling frequency than 44,1kHz and downsamplig it to 44,1kHz will sound better than a straight export at 44,1kHz.

Sanguis Mortuum
quote:
Originally posted by thecYrus
actually exporting at any higher sampling frequency than 44,1kHz and downsamplig it to 44,1kHz will sound better than a straight export at 44,1kHz.
Are you quite sure about that?
thecYrus
yes, if you use a proper dithering algo
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