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What came first, the chicken or the egg?
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Krypton
:conf:
donnybrasco
I came first...because I'm a guy, and that's what we do.

:tongue2

So all things being equal; The guy chicken obviously came first...and the lady chicken finished herself off with an egg-beater.......get it? Egg-"beater"? :haha:

Damn, I'm good. :tongue2
Moral Hazard
You need to further define your terms.
If by egg you mean egg in general or any type of egg then without question egg came first as there were many aquatic species that produced eggs millions of years priort to the evolution of the chicken.
If by egg you mean specifically a Chicken Egg then the chicken came first. An egg is catagorized by what produced the egg, rather than what the egg produced. This is why the eggs we generally purchase are classified as chicken/emu/duck even though they are normally unfertalized and have no potential to produce any life. Given that an egg is named for what produced the egg then a chicken egg could not exist until such time as the first chicken laid it's first egg. Since the existance of a chicken egg is impossible without the prior existance of a chicken then clearly the chicken came first.
George Smiley
The egg, obviously
Capitalizt
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/05/26/chicken.egg/
George Smiley
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Originally posted by Capitalizt
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/05/26/chicken.egg/

Of course. What we know as chickens today must have evolved from something. When an animal evolves, it means that it has been born with some kind of mutation that its parents did not have. Therefore, when chickens were evolving, an egg must have been laid with some kind of mutation in it, and therefore, the egg was not the same animal, genetically, as its parents. Yet the eggs that the mutant chicken lays will be the same
DJ Shibby
I would imagine that something programmed all of this craziness to be nothing but new all the time.

An algorithm that constantly pumps out ridiculous and awesome dynamic newness.

Change.

The Change Cycle. The Life Conundrum. The WTF=42 Quantum Equation.

I just took a huge hit. Rock on.

The funniest part is that the only thing that we actually know to be true is that we experience whatever it is we experience the way we experience it.

And even that breaks down with the slightest touch of random arrays of carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, and other goodies that might not be real at all, but sure kick a hell of a punch in the punch at the company christmas party. Whoo!!
Krypton
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Originally posted by Capitalizt
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/05/26/chicken.egg/


That article actually made me start this thread..

So where did the first chicken egg come from if there were no chickens?
Lira
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Originally posted by Krypton
That article actually made me start this thread..

So where did the first chicken egg come from if there were no chickens?

Don't let the semantics confuse you.

A long time ago, speakers of a language older than English saw some funny looking birds, and they realised they needed to talk about these birds. They then coined the word (the older form I know of the word chicken is something like "kiukinam", from Old Germanic) and - ca-ta-pow! - chickens were born. However, if you want to know what the first prototypical chicken was like (i.e. the first bird you'd recognise as being a chicken)... well, there has never been one. Chickens slowly evolved, just like everything else, and as long as it resembles what we'd consider a chicken, it is a chicken (and this boundary is highly subjective).

However, I'm required by the state of Kansas to give you an alternative view: God said "Let there be funny birds", and the first chicken was created :)
Krypton
My ultimate questions...

When was the first cell split?
When was the first egg ever laid?
When was the first mammalian birth?
When did the first piece of an animal like a starfish spring forth an identical specimen?

Add a what, who, how, and why to those questions too..:p

George Smiley
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Originally posted by Krypton
That article actually made me start this thread..

So where did the first chicken egg come from if there were no chickens?

A turkey that ed a sparrow
DJ Shibby
How about this one?

Because an egg is nothing more than a giant single celled organism, it would have been around much longer than the chicken, since single celled organisms were the first lifeforms on the planet, and the chicken sadly only came along later.

Then again, the chicken is made up of many different types of cells, each of which is its own organism.

So I'd have to conclude that they're the same thing, so differentiation is futile.

:haha: :crazy: :tongue3
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