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Levels before mastering (pg. 4)
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| lenieNt Force |
| quote: | Originally posted by derail
But make sure your mixing decisions are serving the art, not the level meters! |
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| Hydroid |
well from a research i did and from my experiment getting ur rms to -10 db and a -7 ,6 (TOP!!!!) peak is way better.
almost every soundcard will twist/distort the sound above -6b.
u just hear it alot better and get better results.
also when u deliver a "hot mix" (very close to the 0db) the mastering engineer will have alot of problems with it.
it can b done but not with the same result.
get a good balanced mix at -10db rms , send it to a mastering engineer and i'm sure u'll get better results ;) |
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| Sanguis Mortuum |
| quote: | Originally posted by Hydroid
almost every soundcard will twist/distort the sound above -6b. |
Absolute rubbish. |
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| echosystm |
| quote: | Originally posted by Hydroid
get a good balanced mix at -10db rms , send it to a mastering engineer and i'm sure u'll get better results ;) |
This is far too low. Boosting +10db is going to bring up the noise floor too much.
-3db seems to be the norm. However, I have heard of some people (eg. Armin) having their master at -6db. |
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| Sanguis Mortuum |
| quote: | Originally posted by echosystm
This is far too low. Boosting +10db is going to bring up the noise floor too much. |
No, not if you're using 24bit... |
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| Fledz |
| Yea the norm seems to be between -3db to -6db. Anything over and you don't leave enough headroom, anything under and it's too quiet and gives noise when you boost during the mastering stage. |
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| Hydroid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sanguis Mortuum
No, not if you're using 24bit... |
exactly :) u won't have any problem with that if u work on 24bit.
bringing the wave file -10db to 0 db with some serious analog equipment will make ur track sound twice as good as if u give the master guy about 2 db headroom to play with.
and about the sound card thingy , i was talkin about most avarage soundcards. |
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| Hydroid |
| quote: | Originally posted by echosystm
This is far too low. Boosting +10db is going to bring up the noise floor too much.
-3db seems to be the norm. However, I have heard of some people (eg. Armin) having their master at -6db. |
-6d peak i guess ;) |
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| lenieNt Force |
| quote: | Originally posted by Hydroid
exactly :) u won't have any problem with that if u work on 24bit.
bringing the wave file -10db to 0 db with some serious analog equipment will make ur track sound twice as good as if u give the master guy about 2 db headroom to play with.
and about the sound card thingy , i was talkin about most avarage soundcards. |
So it doesnt really matter then what level the wave file peaks on if its 24bit anyway.. ?
The mastering engineer can just turn up or down the volume himself before he sets off to master the track?:) |
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| echosystm |
| quote: | Originally posted by lenieNt Force
So it doesnt really matter then what level the wave file peaks on if its 24bit anyway.. ?
The mastering engineer can just turn up or down the volume himself before he sets off to master the track?:) |
no
the higher the bit depth, the lower the noise floor will/can be, in basic terms. in reality it is a bit more complex than that (crap in = crap out), but for the sake of this argument, 24bit lets you push it higher than 16bit, but it isn't unlimited.
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| Eldritch |
| quote: | Originally posted by Hydroid
well from a research i did and from my experiment getting ur rms to -10 db and a -7 ,6 (TOP!!!!) peak is way better.
almost every soundcard will twist/distort the sound above -6b.
u just hear it alot better and get better results.
also when u deliver a "hot mix" (very close to the 0db) the mastering engineer will have alot of problems with it.
it can b done but not with the same result.
get a good balanced mix at -10db rms , send it to a mastering engineer and i'm sure u'll get better results ;) |
-10dB RMS is equal to a loud mastered track. A mastering engineer wouldn't be happy if you sent him something that loud.
I think you're confusing RMS with peak level.
The master channel should peak around -3dB (That would be around -20dB RMS, just guessing here). Actually as long as it doesn't clip it's fine. |
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| Hydroid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eldritch
-10dB RMS is equal to a loud mastered track. A mastering engineer wouldn't be happy if you sent him something that loud.
I think you're confusing RMS with peak level.
The master channel should peak around -3dB (That would be around -20dB RMS, just guessing here). Actually as long as it doesn't clip it's fine. |
dude rms is the lower volume , the avarage one.
in mastering u make the dynamic range smaller (lowest point is closer to the highest point.)
i think -10db rms with a peak of 0db or higher is kinda weird don't u think?
its usually a small change unless u want a really big dynamic range but that's kinda weird.
almost all masters i checked have a smaller dyanmic range then that... |
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