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_Nut_
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Originally posted by Omega_M
yeah, but as I said, there are only very few Fortran compliers that are recognized in matlab. I think g95 is the only free complier that can work. But it requires linux environment and I've never used it before.


Ahhh see when i did that stuff with craplab I compiled and ran what I needed outside. I then used matlab to take in the output and go from there.
Boomer187
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Originally posted by Omega_M
yeah, but as I said, there are only very few Fortran compliers that are recognized in matlab. I think g95 is the only free complier that can work. But it requires linux environment and I've never used it before.



*boomer opens g95 on his windows based PC.



:wtf: I have to use fortran on my dissertation and I am practicing with g95.
Omega_M
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Originally posted by _Nut_
Ahhh see when i did that stuff with craplab I compiled and ran what I needed outside. I then used matlab to take in the output and go from there.


And the way things were done in that course, we had to interface Matlab with another optimization software called ISIGHT-FD. So matlab did all the function calculations, whereas ISIGHT FD took the values and used its inbuild optimization algorithms to seek a global minimum. Making everything work together was hard as .
_Nut_
Ok here is a programming rant for the sciences.

Why in the hell is fortran still used? In atmospheric sciences uses it almost religiously and it annoys me to no end. I feel like i've been given the 'coup de grāce' when I have to work with it and modify/fix old programs. I can see the usage for legacy systems and routines... but why in the hell is it still used today when there are so many other programming languages that are so much easier/faster/better?

/rant
Omega_M
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Originally posted by Boomer187
*boomer opens g95 on his windows based PC.



:wtf: I have to use fortran on my dissertation and I am practicing with g95.


Ask Boomer to setup FORTRAN compiler environment in windows-based Matlab and create a test MEX file using g95 :cool:
Omega_M
quote:
Originally posted by _Nut_
Ok here is a programming rant for the sciences.

Why in the hell is fortran still used? In atmospheric sciences uses it almost religiously and it annoys me to no end. I feel like i've been given the 'coup de grāce' when I have to work with it and modify/fix old programs. I can see the usage for legacy systems and routines... but why in the hell is it still used today when there are so many other programming languages that are so much easier/faster/better?

/rant


I think FORTRAN still has some advantage over other programming languages when it comes to performing calculations. I know cause they still use FORTRAN extensively in CFD applications. From what my friend told me, it is very much suited for fast parallel processing and such. Here's a thread from another forum that talks a bit about this issue.

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=169974
bas
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Originally posted by Akridrot
This thread is obscure as .

Why did this make me laugh so?
Omega_M
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Originally posted by bas
Why did this make me laugh so?


IDK, cause it's not ? Hey, I didn't want to make it obscure. All I asked was a simple question about uninstalling some crap from my computer. And I am still waiting for answers :mad: Meanwhile your post makes the thread go off on a tangent :whip:
DJ Mikey Mike
None of that is needed by Windows.


And SQL Server 2005 is so 2 years ago. :cool:
AnotherWay83
^^^ what dj mikey mike said

LeopoldStotch
rolf. yup. all those stuff you listed are packaged with VS2005. so it's cool to dump that sucker, and get yourself a hero.

but speaking of Fortran and "outdated" programming languages, it's all about the process of "going out the box", and replicating the functionality in a new language if a major firm / company wants to upgrade. I once worked for a couple of companies that used Foxpro and MS Access for data storage and functionality. i was like :wtf: when i mentioned MySQL, DB2, or Oracle, and they shivered on the fact of migrating to a new environment.

but i am surprised that Fortran is still widely used. Maybe it's just the fact that it falls closely to easy coding like BASIC, therefore generating faster results? I don't know. Anyways, i would think C or Perl would be the preferred choice in integrating with Matlab.

just my 2 cents. :o
Omega_M
^^ Check this thread. Has a good discussion on FORTRAN.

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=169974

...

Anyways I trusted you guys and uninstalled all that stuff. And my computer didn't crash. So yeah, :gsmile:

Thanks :D
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