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if "Islamically this is allowed " under Islamic law- then whoever wrote the law was.. (pg. 2)
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| LazFX |
Thank you very much, George already pointed my error, and you are correct I am sorry to lump them the way I came across....
and to answer your question, I despise all pedo's they should not be out in the streets.... no matter where they are from or what "culture" they partake in. |
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| Renegade |
| quote: | Originally posted by LazFX
Thank you very much, George already pointed my error, and you are correct I am sorry to lump them the way I came across....
and to answer your question, I despise all pedo's they should not be out in the streets.... no matter where they are from or what "culture" they partake in. |
Okay then. So why, in creating this thread, did you choose to highlight just a single instance of paedophilia in Afghanistan (as opposed to the thousands of instances in your own city) and then try to intimate that it is a problem somehow unique to Islamic "culture"? Are you trying to highlight the global problem of child-abuse, or are you just trying to rail against Islam? If the former, then what's with the thread title? |
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| shaolin_Z |
| Sometimes I can't figure out if you're really belligerent, stupid, insensitive, or just a complete Laz. |
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| Krypton |
It's not Islam. It's the culture. Obviously Afghanistan is still stuck in the Dark Ages so this stuff is going to happen...
This happened in the west too, so I dunno what everyone is all worked up over. They are living in the our past.. |
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| NeoPhono |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
Okay then. So why, in creating this thread, did you choose to highlight just a single instance of paedophilia in Afghanistan (as opposed to the thousands of instances in your own city) and then try to intimate that it is a problem somehow unique to Islamic "culture"? Are you trying to highlight the global problem of child-abuse, or are you just trying to rail against Islam? If the former, then what's with the thread title? |
I'm not sure if he was trying to point out that pedophilia is unique to Islam (not trying to put words into his mouth) but that it's something far more acceptable, at least in the instance of the picture and location, than it is other places. Using your example, that list of sex offenders in Houston is there because what they have done is not acceptable, whereas we have a picture of an 11-year old and someone four times her aged being married in an acceptable way. If you could find an Afghanistani sexual offenders list, that would show differently. Again, I'm thinking (hoping) that he was merely trying to show the acceptance of underage relationships, not their exclusivity to Islam or a region. |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
I'm not sure if he was trying to point out that pedophilia is unique to Islam (not trying to put words into his mouth) but that it's something far more acceptable, at least in the instance of the picture and location, than it is other places. Using your example, that list of sex offenders in Houston is there because what they have done is not acceptable, whereas we have a picture of an 11-year old and someone four times her aged being married in an acceptable way. If you could find an Afghanistani sexual offenders list, that would show differently. Again, I'm thinking (hoping) that he was merely trying to show the acceptance of underage relationships, not their exclusivity to Islam or a region. |
The thread is not really about paedophillia in general but of the phenomenon of child wives. So I admit the analogy between pedos in our own (Western) countries and those in other nations is not accurate as you rightly point out there is a difference between acceptance and not.
However, the UNICEF report (where this whole topic came from) quite clearly states that this phenomenon happens mainly in sub-Saharan Africa and South Asia, while pointing out that there are instances of this happening in the predominantly Muslim North Africa and the Middle East, which suggests it is not as common in those two regions.
Christianity is the main religion of sub-Saharan Africa and Hinduism is the main religion of South Asia, altho in both regions, there is a huge Muslim population, so it might very well be that this phenomenon is restricted to the Muslim population, but the report doesn't comment on that so it's impossible to say either way.
Given the fact that peadophillia is not restricted to any religion or culture, then it is quite likely that the common factor is not religion but a backwards culture, of which there are an abundance in the main regions in the report, which contain all the relgions... |
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| LazFX |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Sometimes I can't figure out if you're really belligerent, stupid, insensitive, or just a complete Laz. |
I apologize Shaolin..... but the more I delve into this subject the more I just want to learn more about the justifications for such behavior. And I realize that it is not only in the muslim world.
Sorry..
It just pains me that there are many cultures that this is still accepted....
I could just delete this thread like others do though ;) |
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| shaolin_Z |
| No need to delete the thread, I don't like it but I've gotten used to it by now... being painted with a broad brush that is, and on occasion things worse than that. There's nothing I can do about it and I'm tired correcting incorrect perceptions, not to mention it's pointless majority of the time. I simply don't have the time or energy anymore. So I try not to react to it as much as possible. |
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| limpboy |
OK...first of all...am an Iraqi Muslim. and in my culture...this kind of act is not really acceaptble, and even in Islam ( The Quran) not the stuff people claim to be truse islam, it shows that the girls approval is the most imporant thing, if the girl in not of right age, then she cant get married.
Please dont judge islam from afganstan, they are drug dealers and present an extreme vision of my religon.
thank you. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by limpboy
even in Islam ( The Quran) not the stuff people claim to be truse islam, it shows that the girls approval is the most imporant thing, if the girl in not of right age, then she cant get married. |
So Mohammed's wife Aisha, I suppose she was mature enough at the ripe of age of 6? |
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| limpboy |
| ok...you cant just look at that way. First of all....culture and people 1500 years ago and not the same as now, second of all, Aisha is hated by some muslims, although some claim she was his fav wife, so in the end, the Quran is the ONLY thing that muslims should follow, not minor things that our prophet has done, that is my opinion. |
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| zoogla |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
I'm tired correcting incorrect perceptions, not to mention it's pointless majority of the time. I simply don't have the time or energy anymore. So I try not to react to it as much as possible. |
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