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| Gen3r4l1ty |
Heh, I almost stopped reading after the title... "Even trance king Tiesto has ALTERED HIS STYLE"... but whatev...
Casting aside his apparent hatred of ecstasy and arpeggios, this guy seemes to want to bash the culture more than the music. All he seems to cite musically is that trance is "cheesy" (always has been) and only suitible for folks on e. As for the race thing... I dont know what to say... is he saying that one race is more apt to pick out good music than another? DJing is a ghetto pursuit?
And wtf about the "indie-hipsters" in search of the new? Where? And really, what is the "new" he's talking about? Surely not the deep techy robot farts that are trendy these days; borrowed and rehashed from old techno.
This paper lacks direction and focus other than trance=bad. I too agree that trance is in a slump, but (as some other folks cited) since when does a drop in popularity mean that a genre is dead? If anything it'll drive it back underground and it will pop up again in a few years and appeal to the masses. Cyclical, as many preferences tend to be. |
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| rizo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Gen3r4l1ty
And wtf about the "indie-hipsters" in search of the new? Where? And really, what is the "new" he's talking about? Surely not the deep techy robot farts that are trendy these days; borrowed and rehashed from old techno. |
I think he is talking about Justice and other similar groups |
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| Gen3r4l1ty |
| quote: | Originally posted by rizo
I think he is talking about Justice and other similar groups |
I see. Not to cheapen what those guys do, but isn't a lot of that new wave really just a re-imagining of synth-rock-pop with a little funk? What happens when we find that to be cheesy again? |
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| TSG |
I think the author might just be getting old and/or been listening to some ty trance.
I still like Trance and I don't have to take candee to enjoy it either. I also know quite a few black folks that like listening to trance.
I bet if you had 2 big events at the same time, 1 trance (AVB maybe) and a House event (Morillo maybe), the Trance event would get way more people than any other genre. I've seen it happen before. ;)
TRANCE LIVES! :D |
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| TSG |
| quote: | Originally posted by Gen3r4l1ty
Heh, I almost stopped reading after the title... "Even trance king Tiesto has ALTERED HIS STYLE"... but whatev...
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Haven't other DJs also altered their styles at some point? Like Sasha & Diggers? |
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| Mecca82 |
| i dont know the kind of music im listening nowadays are "trance" or not... it's just damn good music... if it's good i listen to it... no sissy breakdowns though... |
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| Gen3r4l1ty |
| quote: | Originally posted by TSG
Haven't other DJs also altered their styles at some point? Like Sasha & Diggers? |
I was actually alluding more to the fact that Tiesto hadn't adapted as much as others, but regressed into a more poppy visage of his old self. |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by bucke
this article is opinionated and biased. i pretty much stopped reading this crap after the 2nd paragraph. |
It's Dennis Romero's ity bity but somehow revered blog...what the do you expect? :p
I have no idea why anyone pays attention to what this guy says. As if this whole topic hasn't been done to death already......we've been talking about this for the past 4 years on TA! He says absolutely nothing new in this, and nothing we havn't all known for years, along with a bunch of ridiculously broad generalizations.
| quote: | | While the image of overpaid DJs playing other people’s music for legions of glow-stickers is an old joke, it’s still a reality in trance. Nearly three years after the British indie film It’s All Gone Pete Tong sent up superstar-DJ culture for the vacuous farce it usually is, hands-in-the-air trance jocks are still dominating dance culture. Dutch trance icons vied once again for supreme position in the annual DJ Magazine Top 100 DJs poll – Armin van Buuren beat Tiesto – and Billboard dubiously dubbed Tiesto the dance-music story of 2007. |
He points all this out and then a few lines later speaks of trance's "impending demise"...but the same thing has been happening for years! Because the one thing trance is ing good at, no matter how cheesy or watered down it gets, is hooking in new people. Especially with the likes of the mega concerts the big guys have been doing, they get 5,000 new kids hooked on super-saw buildups and Above & Beyond vocals. It doesnt matter how tired the sound has become, if people still havn't heard it, it's new to them, and they'll think its the greatest stuff they've ever heard, especially with all the lights & fireworks and some strong drugs! And despite the rise of the punkish dance stuff like JUSTICE, kids are still loving trance...thats just the way it is.
| quote: | | It’s un-e-music-like to embrace the staid. It’s 2008. Time to face the (new) music, and move on. |
What does he want them to do, start playing minimal techno or deep house? :stongue: that, let the people who are good at it keep hold of the reins.
I for one don't mind trance going wherever the hell it is going. Nobody forces me to listen to it if I don't want to, and I have a load of fun playing other music and seeing other DJs. I welcome any kids who just got hooked on Tiesto to come check out the rest of what EDM has to offer...they might just follow the rabbit hole a bit further... |
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| Gen3r4l1ty |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
I for one don't mind trance going wherever the hell it is going. Nobody forces me to listen to it if I don't want to, and I have a load of fun playing other music and seeing other DJs. I welcome any kids who just got hooked on Tiesto to come check out the rest of what EDM has to offer...they might just follow the rabbit hole a bit further... |
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| HotDogWater |
| quote: | | Originally posted by Clovis I welcome any kids who just got hooked on Tiesto to come check out the rest of what EDM has to offer...they might just follow the rabbit hole a bit further... |
and take the red pill :D |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by HotDogWater
and take the red pill :D |
Glad someone caught it... :p |
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| bas |
| quote: | | Originally posted by Clovis |
You can always tell when you've had a great weekend by the amount of !'s in your posts :p
And a huuuuuuggeee +1 on Romero, I can't stand reading his blog. He's so horribly disconnected from the dance music scene. it feels like everything he writes is a fluff piece of whatever he feel is trendy at the moment. If he says one more thing about how much fun a Steve Aoki gig was, I'm going to vomit. He probably wasn't even there :stongue: |
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