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Obama, Huckabee win big (pg. 2)
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| DJ Shibby |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lesbianosaur
From Kos: "57 percent of Obama's support is 17-29. It's awesome to see younger voters turning out. That's got to be the GOP's worst nightmare."
Over 220,000 Democrats turned out, and they usually only see 160,000. About 120,000 Republicans. The Democrats are in good shape no matter who wins the nomination. |
And so it shall be writ that after they had taken a mile
we were so battered and broken
that we were appeased by an inch. |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Capitalizt
I'm rootin for Obama ;)
He just gave an awesome speech in New Hampshire. His economic policies suck, but he would be an infinite improvement over the republicans on foreign policy and diplomacy.
I'll gladly pay more taxes in exchange for bringing our troops home and making friends around the world rather than enemies.. |
Unless you are in the top 1% of income earners, I don't think you'll see much of a dent in your taxes if Obama wins it overall.
And how 'bout that Paul fella?
Woo.
And Huckabee winning as predicted. And the Republicans are beginning to eat their own with a religious Right monster as their current frontrunner, as predicted.
And thank God Hillary got third. Hopefully her momentum tanks (pretty please?!?!?!) |
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| Renegade |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
And how 'bout that Paul fella?
Woo. |
Haha have the Ronbots started blaming the mainstream media for the result yet? Or are they starting to realise that maybe people, you know, just don't really want to vote for him?
| quote: | | And Huckabee winning as predicted. And the Republicans are beginning to eat their own with a religious Right monster as their current frontrunner, as predicted. |
I can't see any way the party isn't going to split over this. The northern / coastal caucuses probably aren't going to go for Romney or Huckabee and the rural / southern caucuses probably aren't going to go for Giuliani or McCain. The relationship between the religious conservatives and the small-government conservatives in the party has always been tenuous, but none of the current candidates look capable of bridging the divide. Even if none of the losers for the GOP candidacy decide to run as third party, I can't see any way they can win this year.
| quote: | | And thank God Hillary got third. Hopefully her momentum tanks (pretty please?!?!?!) |
She was comfortably in front in NH last I heard, but this result won't help her chances there. |
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| eROs.au |
| Link to the results? |
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| Capitalizt |
I don't think anybody expected Ron Paul to win tonight. Iowa is a Christian Coalition stronghold that loves farm subsidies and fears 'terrarists'. I was watching c-span before the vote, and the republican rooms were filled with elderly voters...religious conservatives who are set in their ways. They aren't ready for the revolution. :cool:
New Hampshire is going to be the real test. It's a modern state with a diverse population. If Paul doesn't get 2nd or 3rd there, it's over. I think he has a very good chance of beating at least two of the "major" candidates though. |
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| Q5echo |
the witch is dead. |
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| Renegade |
| quote: | Originally posted by Capitalizt
New Hampshire is going to be the real test. It's a modern state with a diverse population. If Paul doesn't get 2nd or 3rd there, it's over. I think he has a very good chance of beating at least two of the "major" candidates though. |
Not according to the most recent poll:
| quote: | | A CNN/WMUR New Hampshire poll shows Clinton with a 34%-30% lead over Obama. Edwards has 17%. On the GOP side, the poll has Romney and McCain tied in New Hampshire at 29%. Giuliani is third with 12%; Huckabee has 10%; Paul comes in fifth at 7%. |
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/arch.../03/545301.aspx
He's polling less there than he got in IA. I mean realistically, which state is he likely to win? Are there any identifiable "liberatarian" states in the US? :conf:
| quote: | Originally posted by eROs.au
Link to the results? |
Democrats: Barack Obama (38%), John Edwards (30%), Hillary Clinton (29%), Bill Richardson (2%) and Joe Biden (1%).
Republicans: Mike Huckabee (34%), Mitt Romney (25%), Fred Thompson (13%), John McCain (13%), Ron Paul (10%), Rudy Giuliani (4%) and Duncan Hunter (1%). |
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| jonSun |
| Hillary third & Ron Paul in front of Giuliani. :disbelief |
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| Capitalizt |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
He's polling less there than he got in IA. I mean realistically, which state is he likely to win? Are there any identifiable "liberatarian" states in the US? :conf:
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New Hampshire, the "Live Free or Die" state is as close as we've got ;)
They have no state income tax, no state sales tax, low property taxes, very few regulations on business, legalized gay marriage, etc etc.
It is home to the Free State Project which is a group of a few thousand people dedicated to making the state a bastion for libertarian ideals. So this is obviously RP's best hope. |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Capitalizt
So this is obviously RP's best hope. |
then there is no hope, is there?
i'm sorry, i can sound really mean towards your guy. i can truly go along with a handful of some of his policies, but lets face it, there's no chance.
once he goes Independent it becomes even more of a circus side show than it already is. |
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| Ian |
| i wanted fred thompson to get nominated. Anyone who can grace my screen for years as a guy paid so much to say so little is true president material. Plus i then expected a government with lennie briscoe in it (bless his soul) |
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| Zild |
| Racism is definitely not dead. You must not live in the south. Racism is just like the civil war 'supposed to be dead' but not buried and still hanging around stinking up the place. |
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