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Iranian recon ships probe US Naval Squadron (pg. 5)
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Krypton
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
yeah, real metropolitan. killing homos, rape victims, butchering thieves, cracking down on western influence, letting their religion become their state. can't wait to move there! :rolleyes:


No one's denying that. The Middle East in general has failed to be a bastion of freedom, are we going to change them by force? China ffs eventually learned, free markets are the way to go. The Middle East will too.

But we need to settle Israel/Palestine question PERMANENTLY. I think we can all agree on that...
MisterOpus1
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Originally posted by Q5echo
youre reading too much into it like me suggesting the oil prices rationale.


Fair enough.

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I believe what was seen yesterday is the perpetuation of a cat and mouse game. probably going back decades, long before Iraqi Freedom anyways. Iran and U.S. have had a fairly precarious and fairly deadly relationship for years in these same waters. conflicting powers do this all the time when in such close proximity. we buzz eachother back and forth. small retaliations for things we do to eachothers military. you can be certain that on one occasion or another we've buzzed them in the recent past in a similar vein. you just don't here about it (not because of some nefarious cover-up either like you're inclined to think. it's simply not covered by either side publicly). this time they came out 3 miles into International waters to make a point. i really have no proof of this, so whatever.


Sounds reasonably plausible to me. And no, I'm not thinking of some sinister plot or cover-up at all. I have suspicions here and there, but honestly they weren't terribly invoked this time around. Seems fairly straightforward like you surmise.
hardcore trancer
Bush and his in "Serious consequences" speach makes me wanna vomit every time.
Q5echo
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Bush and his in "Serious consequences" speach makes me wanna vomit every time.


awww cry me a river, dude.

hardcore trancer
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Originally posted by Q5echo
awww cry me a river, dude.





That was a nice hit tho come on Q .;)
Q5echo
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
That was a nice hit tho come on Q .;)


tell your mom i said hi.;)
hardcore trancer
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Originally posted by Q5echo
tell your mom i said hi.;)


How is your sister doing btw?:p
DJ Shibby
I'd place my money on this being a fabricated event straight from pentagon "intelligence" management.

It's also extremely interesting that in the same days these events were released, the media has released declassified documents about the United States using falce provocation naval claims to help usher in the support and start of the Vietnam war.

This tells me that the Media is now fighting the government directly against this war through the careful use of information design and exploitation, just as the government is attempting to use information deception to wage psychological warfare on the domestic turf.

My money is on the media.

It almost makes me wonder if they know something we don't know; perhaps Bush is going to try something very soon, and the real government (IE: THE MEDIA) now threatened is taking preventative action...

We'll see.
Lemonad
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Iran airs own video of US ship incident
DJ Shibby
"The alleged warnings telling the US ships that they were going to be blown up by Iranian speed boats may not after all have come from the Iranian boats but could have come from a land based transmitter or another ship according to US Navy sources."

Well there we go then. No one wants Bush using this as intelligence... I guess there's a war going on that we're not as aware of playing out beneath the surface.

hardcore trancer
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Originally posted by DJ Shibby
"The alleged warnings telling the US ships that they were going to be blown up by Iranian speed boats may not after all have come from the Iranian boats but could have come from a land based transmitter or another ship according to US Navy sources."

Well there we go then. No one wants Bush using this as intelligence... I guess there's a war going on that we're not as aware of playing out beneath the surface.



Very good point,so once again the so called U.S intelligence is getting its information from their asses.
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Very good point,so once again the so called U.S intelligence is getting its information from their asses.


oh i see. its the US intelligence service's fault because US ships were sent a threatening radio message. which of course never would have come from other iranians on shore, transmitting on a naval channel.

i find it amusing that no matter the situation, your focus is ALWAYS on the US.
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