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Finishing A Tune
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| ENZ83 |
I find That i can never finish a tune. reason being is that i know it doesnt sound good enough in a djs bag so idont bother so i keep trying to make stuff better but never finishing tracks.
Is this a bad thing or good. I hear some tunes posted on the forum that are obviously beginners like myself but yet they post them and deem them to be a finished track. Should i try to finish my tunes and move on each time or am i doing the right thing buy not bothering until its almost good enough? |
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| hypotenuse |
| finish the damn tune :D |
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| echosystm |
every producer has at least 20 songs he/she SHOULD finish, but never will.
thats just how it goes. |
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| Zild |
| What I do when this happens to me. Is I go over to a friends house with my laptop and all of my loops chopped up and my FX set ready for rocking a live set. I play the song live, and record it to CD while I'm playing it. Try it out. May not give awesome results but will definitely give you some ideas. |
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| G-Con |
Whilst I know exactly what you mean, it is important to finish your tracks. The reason being that finishing a tune is a skill in itself. All of us can come up with ideas and killer 8 bar loops. But many of us struggle to see it through all the way to the end, to do a full arrangement and structure the tune properly from start to finish.
The only way to get better at this process is practice. Keep struggling on and finishing your tracks. The more you finish, the easier it will become. You will start to find your own method of putting a track together and get an ear for "what comes next."
You might want to wait until you have improved your other production skills but if you do this then all that will happen is you'll be knocking out pro-sounding 8 bar loops and still not have any finished tracks.
Learning to be able to take an idea to a complete finished track is just as important as learning synthesis, FX, mixing and everything else.
One more point. From personal experience I have found that as I've got better, my standards have got higher. When I first started I thought what I produced was crap. The tracks I'm producing now are a million times better than back then but I still think they are crap. Be careful that you are never satisfied with the quality of your tracks and so never finish them.
There's nothing worse than being a producer who has never produced anything. |
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| derail |
Well, every aspect of production is important.
Every producer I know makes a heap of tracks which never get close to finished, because the track helped with a certain aspect of production, helped the producer to learn something which will then come in useful in a later track.
So yes, as long as you're experimenting, learning, improving, it's fine to not finish tracks.
Having said that, it is a problem if you NEVER finish a track. Because then you'll be in a situation where you can put these beautiful sounds together, but you have very little experience building a satisfying journey which lasts 6-10 minutes. And then you'll have to spend a long time at that stage to learn how to do that.
So I'd definitely recommend, from time to time when you feel a track has enough merit, to finish it and use it as a learning experience for building a satisfying journey. |
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| djms |
I say don;t finish a track until you know it will do well in a dj bag.
Keep focusing on getting your engineering and grooves spot on and once your all good with that then make your track,
making a track is easy, engineering it correctly with good grooves is a nightmare.
You'll know yourself when you land osme phat grooves and when you do thats the point you should make a full track and get it out there.
It means as well when you do eventually release a track you'll hit the scene running with better labels and that should set you up well for moving forweard |
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| Jason_R |
I think I have a serious problem as I never started a track despite being onto production for a number of years : (
I'm quite advanced with synth programming 'Eq' compression ect but for what ever reason I seem to be content with creating melodies like you get in sound bank demos.
I think it may be because I got into production by teaching myself to play keyboard and when I'm the studio ( well my bedroom ) this is what I spend most of my time doing.
Just wondered if anyone else has come up against this? |
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| Kthought |
Indeed finishing a song gets away from aspiring/beginning producers. Finalizing a track is my biggest hurdle in production, once you see it as an integral part (aforementioned) of producing, i.e. almost a stage of production itself, then you will practice and work on the techniques just like anything else. Don't forget to listen to new music regularly, attend gigs with big DJ's often, Stay involved. Never fails to motivate you to get back cracking on that near finished tune....
however do as i say not as i do.... i have 20+ gigs of audio projects yet to be finished. The promoter at my club gets sick and tired of listening to my sick hooks without having a CDR. Your problem is common, if your motivated or become motivated it will work itself out. |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by echosystm
every producer has at least 20 songs he/she SHOULD finish, but never will.
thats just how it goes. |
ain't that the truth?!
Whenever I run out of ideas for a song, I've learned that my best approach is to just leave it alone for a few days, weeks, or even months and come back to it later, rather than force bad ideas. Then, when I'm feeling uninspired to start something new, I start going through my old unfinished songs and sometimes it's almost like hearing them for the first time. The next thing I know, BAM - song finished. Other times, when I just can't seem to take any idea somewhere, I send it to one of my collaborating buddies and more often than not, they come up with something fantastic that re-energizes the song. It's amazing what a fresh perspective can do for a song. |
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| ENZ83 |
I got a few mates but i dont see them regular who are better than me at the eq and mix down stuff there bettet than me at percussion too but when it comes to melody i think that i can sort that bit out~(he says having not done jack) i wish we could link back up again im sure we could get it rocking.
any way in my little dreamworld I wanted to get a track ready to hit the dancefloors of Amnesia in mid summer 2008, Trust me im dreaming it most nights!! I just cant remember the TUNE!! ha ha |
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| hypotenuse |
| quote: | Originally posted by G-Con
Whilst I know exactly what you mean, it is important to finish your tracks. The reason being that finishing a tune is a skill in itself. |
+1 |
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