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| DustyWhiskey |
Howdy,
I am currently using FL Studio. I am working with basslines, arps, and percussions. However, when I try to put it all together in the playlist the following happens:
1) Basslines don't have any punch
2) Kicks don't have KICK!
It seems as though the only thing that is clear and vivid in the pattern is the higher register arpeggio synths. In other words, sounds are drowning themselves out and there is not much clarity. Any help in solving this problem would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Dusty |
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| Zombie0729 |
| is this an Erectile Question ? |
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| DustyWhiskey |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zombie0729
is this an Erectile Question ? |
Hahaha, yes I think it is. I read through some of the tutorials, but none of them really helped as they aren't really tailored towards FL Studio. Any suggestions?? Am I using the wrong type of basses? I want a nice pumpin' bass sound in the background and I don't want it to be drowned out. See the thing is that I can switch VSTs and it meshes better together, but what happens is that I lose impact of the sound that I am looking for.
Currently using Vanguard for both Lead (arp) and Bassline
When I switch to Albino, it is a much softer sound, which I am not looking for. |
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| echosystm |
| quote: | Originally posted by DustyWhiskey
1) Basslines don't have any punch
2) Kicks don't have KICK!
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"kick" and "punch" are pretty subjective terms, but i would usually associate them with compression. i don't know if this is normal compressor behaviour, but there is a compressor i use which seems to target specific transients. works great for bass + drums.
http://www.stillwellaudio.com/?page_id=18
download the demo and see if it is what you want.
otherwise, if we're talking about eq, cut your bass off at 50hz. i get the feeling you are trying to put too much bass in, and thus it is turning to mud. if your bass notes overlap with your kick notes ALOT, put a bit of sidechain compression on. |
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| derail |
There are no "right" or "wrong" sounds per se.
It really depends on your production style, whether a sound is right or wrong for you. The more experience you have working on music the better you'll get to know what works.
In a song, all the elements work together to create a certain result. How the bassline will ultimately sound in the context of the song depends heavily on the kick, but it also depends on every other instrument. The bassline can sound incredibly pumped up and punchy by itself, but if you then add a massively punchy kick to it, the bassline may become a little weak in comparison.
Overall though, your question is just too broad, you're basically asking "how do I mix?", which is a multi-year journey, not a forum question.
At this stage, spend a lot of time experimenting with putting sounds together. If you have good samples and synths then you'll be able to put them together and have them sound good. Listen to a lot of your favourite tracks in as much detail as you can. You may notice, a lot of the kicks and main basses are up the center in mono, not stereo, and they have no reverb on them, and in the context of the track that sounds amazing. A lot of them may not. The more you listen to good tracks and make notes the more you'll learn. But that's also a skill that develops with time. The more time you spend putting good sounds together, the more you'll hear in other people's mixes and know what they're doing. |
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| DustyWhiskey |
| quote: | Originally posted by echosystm
"kick" and "punch" are pretty subjective terms, but i would usually associate them with compression. i don't know if this is normal compressor behaviour, but there is a compressor i use which seems to target specific transients. works great for bass + drums.
http://www.stillwellaudio.com/?page_id=18
download the demo and see if it is what you want.
otherwise, if we're talking about eq, cut your bass off at 50hz. i get the feeling you are trying to put too much bass in, and thus it is turning to mud. if your bass notes overlap with your kick notes ALOT, put a bit of sidechain compression on. |
Sidechain compression is like the Bennasi tactic right? |
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| xxonemanriotxx |
Well I hope you're not using the kicks that come with FL. All those sounds suck.
If thats not the case, It's EQ time |
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| echosystm |
| quote: | Originally posted by DustyWhiskey
Sidechain compression is like the Bennasi tactic right? |
yes, but bennassi uses very hard sidechaining. i'm talking about just enough sidechaining to resolve minor mix problems - the pumping effect should be almost unnoticeable. |
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| DustyWhiskey |
| quote: | Originally posted by echosystm
yes, but bennassi uses very hard sidechaining. i'm talking about just enough sidechaining to resolve minor mix problems - the pumping effect should be almost unnoticeable. |
And how would I go about doing that (In FL)
Thanks! |
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| lowski |
sorry i might be stealing your thread :confused: but is there a way to compress a certain freq using sidechain. i want to just have the low end pumped in and out but i want the mids and highs to still be strong. im using reason by the way.
thanks |
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| pwnage1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by lowski
sorry i might be stealing your thread :confused: but is there a way to compress a certain freq using sidechain. i want to just have the low end pumped in and out but i want the mids and highs to still be strong. im using reason by the way.
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Multiband compressor. |
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| DustyWhiskey |
| quote: | Originally posted by pwnage1
Multiband compressor. |
Now what about in FL??? |
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