To bring up breaks, is just really not a valid point. Florida has it's own ing genre for god's sake...Florida Breaks. I for one, am sick of it.
Tampa is moving in the right direction.
stevësto
i knew people were going to show their dislike for breaks. i dont like them either. it was an example that just so happens to be tampa, like it or not that is our history. the idea here is homegrown music. regardless of the genre, if people are good at playing it and making it, its a hell of a lot more real and genuine than any electro house commercial dj which picked up the music when they went to wmc or youtube. the internet has both helped and hurt music. while you have access to a lot of music now for free (just fukn admit it slsk users), it also hurts regional individuality.
CHRles
in Tampa Breaks. Sorry but most of the good Funky Breaks always came from Orlando, or South FL (Infiniti, Jackal & Hyde) and most of the better Breakbeat DJs were either from Orlando or the UK. Tampa has some good DJs like Toni Feline and Sharaz, as well as Progressive House talent like Rabbit In The Moon (especially Three who dabbled in everything from Techno to Trance to Tech House and Progressive), and House DJs like Jask. Much of the Funky Breaks that came out of Tampa were the ty Brad Smith type of Bootleg Breaks that a 5 year old can make. Now Orlando, that city had a huge and diversified scene at one time with DJ Icey (Breaks), Kimball Collins (Trance), Chris Fortier (Progressive), Noel Sanger (Progressive), Jimmy Van M (Progressive), AK 1200 (Drum N Bass), DJ KJ (commercial Dance).
As for the Amp on Friday nights, it was almost never packed on Fridays, even during its peak in the early 2000s. It was considered one of the premiere clubs in town mainly b/c FLZ broadcasted from it on Saturday nights, b/c it did on occasion bring in big name DJs (usually NOT on Saturday nights), and it had a revolving dancefloor which was almost as good as the one at Mannequins (in downtown Disney). Also, let's face it - a lot of the other clubs in Ybor were either trashy (Empire), or played Retro and Rock (Masquerade), or weren't any better then the Amp (like 1509 and Pleasuredome), or didn't last for too long (Prana, Fun).
Tampa has always been big on the more poppier and commercial type of Dance music. That's the type of Funky Breaks you heard in the clubs here. You didnt hear a whole lot of Nu Skool Breaks, and not much of that Progressive Breaks sound that Hybrid makes or Sasha played. Just rehashed remixes of old 80s songs, and Breakbeat remixes of vocal Trance anthems. At least it sounds like nowadays the DJs in Tampa play the House tunes without having to give them a fake Breakbeat sound.
malon-e
Holy CHRles, I used to talk to you on the old Wild 98.7 boards. You, me, and shawndavid were the only two trance/progressive fans on a Florida Breaks cheese board, lol.
Pimpis
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Originally posted by Coastie
im going to have to agree with raven. It was a fun party and that was that. I go out to have fun not to sit there and think man what a mediocre set. i went to PVD at amp and I will be the first to say the G&D set blew that out of the water. I think that Ybor is finally getting good acts. Sorry for not being around during the famous tampa break days, but as for me breaks suck. It was a good set and a good croud, hottest girls in ybor for sure. Czar to me is finally doing what amp should have done and bringing in new acts that have not been to tampa. and as far as the st pete area goes the scene there is getting better to with the new Push Ultra Lounge starting to bring some good acts to such as DJ Dan and Starkillers. Ive lived in Tampa now for two years and never scene such consistantly good djs coming. Also I will say it was loud but the sound there blows the amps sound out of the water. Sorry Steve you did make some good points, but I just dont agree.
Thank you for saving me time by not typing up the same response coastie. With that being said, stevesto dont take it the wrong way, but sounds like you are stuck very much in the past buddy. I like going out to HPC, and the last G&D show. I go out there to have fun not stand in the back and come up with valid points to argue on a thread or "in person". So if you are that bitter and not happy with the "scene" and tampa... whatever.. stop going out then. BTW for somebody that doesnt like "commercialized" DJs and their music you sure picked a good name to imitate.
Cheerio.
LiL-B
I see last night, along with the benassi show, as a sign Tampa is still maintaining and possibly on the upswing. Being able to pull off a successful Thursday night with a top dj is definitely a good sign. Its long over due, that tampa has had a promoter consistently bringing quality talent. I think it caused the area to suffer from a dose of lack of enthusiasm. I’m sure I am not the only one guilty of not going out unless there is someone good in town. Bringing in outside talent refreshes the area with inspiration and drive to go out and support the scene. Now that a good promoter has stepped up, make sure you guys support these events so we can ensure a future of quality djs in our area (hopefully more trance).
Also, I’m not too sure about that theory of pre-internet and how that was better times. I saw the damage of exposing people only to local sounds. This caused the local crowds to be not open to anything other than what they are used to hearing which in our case was breaks. That held Tampa back and made us miss out on some great music, just because it had a straight beat.
DiegoParra32
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Originally posted by raven848
Diego, if you were one of them or your friends were that sucks, but the truth is they were performing terribly. Had you been to Amp since it reopened before they did that? I did. It was terrible. It was worse than terrible. They all deserved to be fired. Sorry.
No, I didn't want them to change their style but definitely their track selection. They had to have stopped buying records in 2003... maybe earlier. Doing that would be killing the scene.
ps - the latin night at the Amp is Fridays, I think saturday is hip hop
i'm goin to try to say this, in the most uncocky way possible, but i could throw down, ten times a sicker set than some of the residents tehre did. but, i don't know the inside story. so maybe they were forced to play certain tracks and the likes. in any case, mondo did a decent job of opening up for a big name whenever they came by, and i always enjoyed the drive over there b/c i would roll over there with 5 of my closest friends, blast a banging 1 hour set as loud as i possibly could on the way there and get blasted at the amp. that is why i enjoyd it.
CHRles
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Originally posted by malon-e
Holy CHRles, I used to talk to you on the old Wild 98.7 boards. You, me, and shawndavid were the only two trance/progressive fans on a Florida Breaks cheese board, lol.
Hey! longtime man. There were some other ppl on the board who enjoyed House and Trance, but maybe not to the same extent. If I remember correctly, you too were exposed to the Orlando scene (not just Tampa) as you lived there for a while at a time there were some good events.
There's definitely other people here that I remember from other boards like Lil B.
As for Gabriel & Dresden, I saw them last year here in Nashville - pretty good set to be honest.
Most of the really good shows take place in Atlanta, which seems to actually bring in a lot more variety in terms of DJs then Miami. There's a number of top notch promoters down there, and a large enough crowd that's clued up and enjoys EDM.
raven848
I was a manager at Spec's Music in St. Pete from 98-2000 and I did the ordering for the store. I bolstered the electronic section until I couldn't fit anymore discs, and then made the section bigger. I put new, fresh discs on the listening posts and endcaps and did my best to recommend quality music. And the only thing people wanted was DJ FBI mix discs or DJ X or any of those.... so if todays kids are actually listening to something else, like a G&D, or Sasha, or any "names" they might recognize (even if they aren't buying it) I see that as only a good thing.
Mattivi
that post was refreshing along with insightful, nice job;)
nchs09
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Originally posted by stevësto
oh so much to say, its too much to type. really. this should be an in person talk that could go on all night. yes ive been to push. and three's nights at hpc. we should all get together and talk, maybe even form a "quality music alliance/brigade". we could wear the same uniform and hand out citations to people like dj lux (ok thats mean i dont like to talk about anyone, never hide behind a keyboard).
all im going to say right now is in response to someone in the original thread asking how G&D interacts with each other. simple answer ... they dont. not the 2 times ive seen them anyway. for an example of a REAL dj duo that interact with each other as a team and communicate with each other non verbally:
^^^ this is what we need to see/hear. not bull commercial crap. we want real soul and spirit through a turntable. we all need to stop making excuses and be honest with ourselves. you know deep down the music was not the greatest ("groundbreaking") ... thats good, thats the first step to becoming free.
You cant get more comercial than that video lol
The acapella was horribly mixed in as well, seen morillo do it with his eyes closed 100 times better. Just because something is underground doesnt mean its good. There is alot of good comercial songs, artist and lables as well as more underground. Never really understood the meaning of underground to be honest. You just want to hear a track that is good but only 1 guy plays it? Whats the point in that?
treefermadness
whats wrong with people snatch at Hyde Park is one of the best running parties in the state if not the country there has been countless talent coming through there since i can remember
