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| me&myself |
Recently I was asked, how people in USA feel about the Democrates being real close to winning this time?
Please don't hesitate to write some of your thoughts about both (R and D).
Being apolitical i can say nothing about that) so i am making a lil research. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| I say it's been four years in coming. |
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| me&myself |
please specify)))
I mean, seriously, I want to know details, thoughts, opinions, ... |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
Well, I don't know what opinions to share exactly. The election is certainly far from over, so a shift in the Presidency is anything but absolute.
But as for what to expect... well, a look at the differences between Clinton and Bush would be a good place to start. Clinton focused largely on domestic issues, making the economy, education, and healthcare priorities, while balancing the budget. He focused on expanding multilateral cooperation through free trade and diplomacy, and was hesitant to intervene militarily anywhere even in the name of humanitarianism (aka Rwanda).
Bush is a proponent of Democratic Peace Theory, meaning that he believes in spreading democracy around the world at swordpoint in order to facilitate an eventual hypothesized long-term stability, and has used a doctrine of preemptive warfare in order to launch vast state-building efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq to do so. This has caused the national deficit to soar and has impeded the ability of the Administration to successfully address growing domestic concerns. The Republican Party used to be for small government and localized control (aka balancing budgets, promoting education, and limiting the power of government to encroach on civil liberties), but under Bush those goals have largely been abandoned.
Of course, some of that is subjective and up for debate, but that's my general feeling. |
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| DJ Shibby |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
I say it's been four years in coming. |
Well this election has basically been pre-decided as a democratic victory, which is great in the current relative sense of equilibrium, and lame in the sense of ethics of what a democracy should be. |
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| Nick The D!ck |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
I say it's been EIGHT years in coming. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Well this election has basically been pre-decided as a democratic victory, which is great in the current relative sense of equilibrium, and lame in the sense of ethics of what a democracy should be. |
Turnover is good for a democracy. And it wouldn't have been "basically pre-decided" if this President could keep his approval rating over 30%. |
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| Alex |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Turnover is good for a democracy. And it wouldn't have been "basically pre-decided" if this President could keep his approval rating over 30%. |
+1
How McCain gets so much support though is beyond me, while he seems a lot more sensible than Dubya he also seems like a really enthusiastic "fan" of Bush, which is probably the LAST thing anyone would want to associate themselves with in this election.
Also, I know becoming president should mostly be about who is the best qualified, etc etc, but does the USA really need another geezer in the White House? McCain was a war hero from Vietnam, I get it, but he seems old and weak when he speaks and doesn't come across as being youthful/energetic enough to handle the no doubt taxing job of being president. Then again, I suppose campaigning like a mad man is also very taxing, but still.
I also hope that America wises up to McCain's ploys, he will hammer the fact that he was a POW in Vietnam for 5 years and the fact that he's "tough on security" into as many people's heads as he can, but I think nonsense like that doesn't belong in the race for President.
Especially since there have been no terrorist attacks on the United States since 9/11, the whole "I'm tough on security, NINE-ELEVEN, AL QUAEDA, TERRORISTS EVERYWHERE" nonsense needs to be put to rest. |
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| Capitalizt |
Saying Mccain is a 'fan' of Bush is an understatement. He agrees completely with Bush on foreign policy...and his only criticism is that Bush hasn't been aggressive ENOUGH when it comes to invading/occupying foreign countries. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| What I don't understand is that in response to questions about his age, McCain has publicly stated that he would probably only seek one term, which I find hard to believe. |
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| Fibonacci |
McCain probably only wants 1 term because he might not live both terms - he had to take out a life insurance policy just to take out a loan for his campaign, just because of his age!
I'm disappointed with the democrats because it took them so long to bear their political teeth. The war in iraq didn't become a democratic concern until long after it should have been. Until IT WAS ALREADY PUBLIC SENTIMENT.
Obama saying "he didn't vote for the war" doesn't say much. He didn't vote, period. And secondly, what would he have voted for in light of the evidence that iraq was building a chemical and nuclear arsenal? The problem was faulty and insufficient evidence, and then a severe lack of accountability. It wasn't a democrat vs republican problem. It was a bad politics problem and a bad administration problem.
Honestly, I'm not even sure how far this election could swing. Something tells me that the powers that be will always be the powers that be, and the powers that be will never allow the power base to swing either too far to the right or to the left. |
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| Alex |
It's true, electing McCain = More wars.
No idea how he'll pull it off, given a huge number of combat troops are already deployed.... but ya... yeehaw lets kill them terruristz yall.
:rolleyes: |
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