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| Ryan0751 |
But the point is that the ear training that's needed to "fine tune" as you say is 100x harder to get good at then "getting close"... So when you actually get good at fine tuning, the "getting close" should be almost automatic.
And effects typically go a long way to ruining a perfectly good set.
| quote: | Originally posted by xiad
People dancing don't care how the hell you are beatmatching, as long as your doing it. Using the BPM counters to help figure out where your tracks are is not wrong IMO. To me its like a car with a speedometer. Why not use it. A trick I figured out when using CDJs is to move the pitch fader up to the next whole number. for example, track A is at 129. but to avoid being at 129.9, simply move the pitch fader down till it says 128. At that point you are at 128.9. Afterwards simply adjust upward till you hit 129, then you know your in close range.
BUT, all this said, you must still use your ears with the jog wheel to fine tune. If your using both the methods in combination, I don't see why ANY transition would go bad. Plus, having your tracks perfectly beatmatched give you as a DJ the opportuinty to do whatever you like with the tracks. Effects can go a LONG way when you have the time to fcuk with them |
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| CReddick |
I had a friend who was learning to DJ and asked me the same questions as above...
I put some black tape over the BPM readout on his CDJs... He's a much better DJ now. |
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| Trance Nutter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trance Nutter
so, what will happen the one time you're expected to mix on gear that doesn't have beatcounters?
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| IntegraR0064 |
| quote: | Originally posted by upcoming
ok I have been practicing the way you told me and its no biigie,tell me please when you tune by yourself are the chances of skipping smaller then when autotuning?And what is the best way to cue if not triggering it with pioneer mixer fader,just use the play/pause button or finger holding? |
What they mean about not using the cross fader is just leave the cross fader in the middle and use the channel faders to mix. In other words, in order to mix in a track, you would raise the channel fader on that track and lower the channel fader on the outgoing track. |
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| Dojomaster26 |
| quote: | Originally posted by IntegraR0064
What they mean about not using the cross fader is just leave the cross fader in the middle and use the channel faders to mix. In other words, in order to mix in a track, you would raise the channel fader on that track and lower the channel fader on the outgoing track. |
+1
I started mixing this way and immediately noticed an increase in the amount of control that I had over my mix. Most of the crossfaders that I've used have been way too 'punchy' per se, where the next channel pops in very abruptly before reaching a 1/4 of the way across the fader.
Then again, some people do quite well with the crossfader. It comes down to preference. |
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| Limit |
| funny thing is that I started djing with TT 1200's( used em for like 6 years) and my beat matching was flawless...now after taking a long break from djing I have returned with cdjs...and now my beatmatching isn't as flawless...but still very good. I guess I have to get used to these damn things. I just can't stop looking at that damn bpm counter..I'm gonna cover them up. I think its worse with the beat counter. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| imo if you need a beat counter you shouldnt be playing to a crowd. |
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| Clovis |
| I use it sometimes to get a ballpark range and save time, but I play lots of times without paying attention to it. I think the real thing that allows you to cheat is the % change indicator. Over time its easy to remember the pitch % change required for certain tunes at the same bpm. |
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| whiskers |
i beatgrid tracks in Traktor and have the software beatmatch for me, so i'm getting a kick out of these replies
/learned to beatmatch on a numark cdmix1 with 0.1% pitch resolution. use the beatcounter only for knowing what ballpark you're in, not for how many yards you're from the dug out. |
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| IntegraR0064 |
| quote: | Originally posted by whiskers
i beatgrid tracks in Traktor and have the software beatmatch for me, so i'm getting a kick out of these replies
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Does that work well?
I of course can beatmatch, but I'm thinking of going to a digital vinyl system and I am hoping for something that can beatmatch for me some of the time when I want to do really quick mixes or if i want to be concentrating more on sampling and using vsts. |
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| whiskers |
| quote: | Originally posted by IntegraR0064
Does that work well?
I of course can beatmatch, but I'm thinking of going to a digital vinyl system and I am hoping for something that can beatmatch for me some of the time when I want to do really quick mixes or if i want to be concentrating more on sampling and using vsts. |
as I got better and better at beatmatching (closer and closer to being all right :P), i started realizing that traktor is OK at getting BPM info, and it is mediocre on its own at beatmatching two tracks. If you spend the time and set a precise and accurate grid for each track, you won't have to worry about beatmatching at all... which is much more pleasant on hardware, believe me - i can't stand beatmatching in traktor. |
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| Hand Signal X |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ryan0751
And effects typically go a long way to ruining a perfectly good set. |
Effects are generally tacky.
Beatmatching in Traktor 3 does suck. |
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