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Have trance tracks become slower on average? (pg. 3)
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| Armitage |
| It's pretty rare for stuff higher than 140 to entertain me as much as stuff in the 132-140 range, but I guess that has more to do with the type of music that's produced in those ranges rather than the actual tempo. |
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| Project-K |
| I'm gonna go against the current here and say I prefer my dance music at or around 110bpm. |
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| body125z |
unfortunately from the posts im reading from our producer members i m making the conclusion that we wont see again trance genre as we knew it ,and that makes me a bit sad..:(
and im talking not only for the tempo but generally for the total elements of a trance track.. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by body125z
unfortunately from the posts im reading from our producer members i m making the conclusion that we wont see again trance genre as we knew it ,and that makes me a bit sad..:(
and im talking not only for the tempo but generally for the total elements of a trance track.. |
What do you mean by this? What do you think are the "total elements of a trance track?"
I'm trying to make some tracks, and for trance I'll generally be making them 135 - 145 or so. |
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| nikhil chinapa |
| quote: | Originally posted by Whirloop
Bpm might have some affect on the pace felt in a track, but pace has also to do with the elements presented in the track and the structure of the whole composition. Stuff like a really well put 'dance bomb' in a track can have huge effect even in lower bpm. |
I'm glad you clarified that...:)
In my case, BPM has very little to do with how I perceive the energy level of a track... one of my all time favourite "dance bombs" is Trentemoller - Always something better, and that's a 125/126 BPM track I think.
| quote: | Originally by Estuera
It's like good sex, when you take it slow the orgasm is a lot more intense |
It's cheesy and a cliche... because it's true. :D |
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| Beat Blog |
| Kick drums have gotten much bigger. |
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| skip |
i think trance has slowed down. i dunno if it's good or bad though, maybe kinda both. but i'm glad i don't have to listen to trance that's over 140 bpm as most of it sounds like above that. in fact i don't like any music over 140 bpm except drum 'n bass (there are a few exceptions though).
but it is true that the bpm of the track isn't the only thing that affects how fast/energetic we perceive the music. i didn't realize this until i started djing. i tried to beatmatch tunes that were like 10 bpm apart but sounded about the same tempo to me and then it hit me, that you can make a track seem "faster" without raising the tempo. |
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| a98 |
in the beginning of 90s there were lots of slower tracks too, like most of jam and spoon tracks or cygnus x tracks. but in 99 when hi-nrg trance peaked it all went a bit too crazy imo. there were uplifting tracks going in 142-145bpm.
in the past 5 years it has indeed slowed down a lot, a lot of trance has taken more and more influences from house and deep techno so the tempo has also slowed more to their level. there are still plenty of fast tracks out there, and full-on psytrance for instance hasn't slowed down a bit. |
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| palm |
| quote: | Originally posted by Stasis
Sadly, I blame drugs. Tracks generally were faster (spikier? As I think MixMag used to say), and I think that might have had something to do with the prevalence of E. Nowadays it's a more passe and not as widespread, and I think the music reflects that. |
the 90s!:D |
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| body125z |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
What do you mean by this? What do you think are the "total elements of a trance track?"
I'm trying to make some tracks, and for trance I'll generally be making them 135 - 145 or so. |
im not an expert on this but listenin to trance for many years both old and new stuff i think this
OLd school trance
Melody _ upliftin(example svenson + gielen twisted track)
Bassline _running on higher bpms (an example is the bass line of gouryella on 137bpm that vomes in my mind)
BAss_kicks more agressive( i was listening to a ferry corsten set Ferry Corsten - Live at Mega Aplec Dance Barcelona (18.05.2002) and some of trax he played make me goona crazy only from their hard kicks_bass)
Nowadays not only tempo is too slow but the influences from house and techno are even more and more obvious
Listen to some stuff from phynn like escape and listen his new productions like starfire at night
first state too listen firast state track and listen falling..
the good upliftin melodies gone to both of these artists
ofcourse for my ears reducing tempo of track affected bassline rythm too
and bass kicks arent hard anymore..
An other change i see is that lot of trax (eg on asot) are full of vocals which (not all the times) killing the magic a trance track contains
If u listen to latest asot episode one track distinguishes
if u find it(which i dont think its difficult) then u will understand what i m talking about;) |
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| Beat Blog |
| quote: | Originally posted by Stasis
Sadly, I blame drugs. Tracks generally were faster (spikier? As I think MixMag used to say), and I think that might have had something to do with the prevalence of E. Nowadays it's a more passe and not as widespread, and I think the music reflects that. |
I'd say that there are a far higher proportion of people using drugs today than there was in the 90's.
Sure, there were big raves where everyone was on drugs, but these days it's part of the clubbing mainstream, not just a select few "dirty" venues in each city. |
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| andrewyates |
| It's a bit funny now...because everyone with a computer and a synth suddenly is a producer. Yet a lot of the house/progressive that comes out now, especially from 'new' artists is at 128. Which could be related to the fact that many recording programs, sequencers, etc...are defaulted to 128 bpm. Some producers may just be getting lazy! :haha: I generally don't like it much over 144 or so. |
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