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Is Deep House really Tech House? (pg. 5)
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PETRAN
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Originally posted by LionsLair
To simplify Tech House you could describe it as House music that uses techy or computer age sounds 1985+. House is more organic, using instruments we've had for the past few centuries: pianos, trumpets, ethnic percussions, organs, saxaphones, strings, etc. Tech House is replacing those instruments with the sharper and darker techy sounds from the new age of instruments like synths and computer generated SAW SIN SQUARE Triangle sounds. Deep House in many ways is almost the opposite of Tech House. It has warmer tones, the sounds can get sublime and underwater or backroom feeling versus sharper frequencies of Tech House. The prominent Deep House sounds are usually in the in the 300hz-1.5Khz range in frequency which feel muted/moody/warm compared to the prominent Tech HOuse sound frequencies in the 1k-18k range. Having said that there are many tracks that share ideas between the genres.


OT:...a great way to maxamize enjoyment of Joris Voorn's 'A Deep Place' album is to listen to Burial's 'Untrue' album first. Both great albums that you will appreciate more if you hear them together within a short timeframe.




This is wrong. Ok to clear it up once and for all ,the word "Tech-House" sounds like it describes a cold, mechanistic version of house, but as i said in a previous post, it has little to do with it. "Tech-House" was coined by Mr. C in the mid-90s to describe a stripped-down, more upbeat version of deep-house, or house with jazzy detroit techno elements and at times tribal drumming. Tech-House is in most of the times warm, it uses all the jazzy chords and stuff, lots of dub and low-end and indeed ethnic percussions, strings, saxophones etc. In the end of the day, as i said, tech-house originally was nothing more then a harder, clubbier version of deep house.Famous Tech-House musicians and djs were Mr.C,Terry Francis,Jay Tripwire, Joshua Collins, Jesper Dahlback, John Tejada, Gideon, Terry Lee Brown Jr., Jeff Bennett, Harris, Circulation, Subtech,The Timewriter, David Duriez, Layo and Buschwacka!, Asad Rizvi,Eddie Richards etc. (although some of them had also produced deep house, techno and some have jumped to the electro-house bondwagon).

The thing you descrive sounds more like the cold, electro-house revival that came in 2002 with the electro-clash revolution (with Mylo, Felix Da Housecat, Rex The Dog, Booka Shade and stuff) and uses all the analogue, atari,retro, raw sounds. It has little to do with tech-house ot whatsoever-at least back then-today there is some diffusion betwen all sub-genres though. Ass i said before though, mislabels could have changed the original meaning of the (sub-)genres and hence, tech-house today could mean a different thing then the original tech-house sound. Ironically, Mr. C (who coined the term) hated the retro "electro-house" revival, saying that it had nothing to do with the sound he was playing and rejected it as souless and mindless garbage. I have to agre with him up to a certain point.
Owsey2008
No. obv nat
PaulSn
No way.
Arteh
show me just ONE track that is 0,1 % techy from deep house
PETRAN
quote:
Originally posted by Arteh
show me just ONE track that is 0,1 % techy from deep house




I can show you 90% of tech-house tracks which are deep though...lol
Arteh
quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
I can show you 90% of tech-house tracks which are deep though...lol


go on
PETRAN
quote:
Originally posted by Arteh
go on



Ok, i don't know what do you mean as "tech-house", but THIS is/was the original tech-house sound as it was hailed by Mr. C and co. I already explained in numerous posts how the on-line shops with the mislabels could have changed the original meaning. Go read them for more information and for the history of the current sound.



ORIGINAL TECH HOUSE (FDA approved for originality)



Terry Lee Brown Junior - "Straight Flush"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF199604-01-01-13.mp3


Jay Tripwire - "Q On The Turn"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF177759-01-01-08.mp3


Gideon Jackson- "Come On" (great tune i used to have it on vinyl. Great Detroit influence)

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF120489-01-01-02.mp3


Eddie Richards - "Chicken or Beef"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF174949-01-01-01.mp3
PETRAN
And to clear things up (and for the threadstarter) this is how original deep house sounds like:



ORIGINAL DEEP HOUSE:


The Sun Orchestra - "Together"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF66395-01-02-01.mp3

Inland Knights- "Don't Ever"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF66395-01-02-02.mp3

Moodymann- "I'm Doing Fine"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF144186-02-01-05.mp3

Miguel Migs- "Petalpushing"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF66395-01-03-01.mp3


As you can listen tech house IS a dirtier, more futiristic, stripped-down version of deep house, whereas deep house is the cooler, fuller, organic sound. Still, they can be viewed as a continuum rather then as different genres. Hence one can refer to them as deep/tech house.
Aleks_B
PETRAN, you know your stuff. Big ups on the Mr.C reference. He's the man..
nefardec
sun orchestra /franck roger - great great stuff

i have a good bit of his discog

the sun orchestra remix of chateau flight - prism is pretty nice

Clovis
Also Inland Knights for the damn win
ToxicGreenWaste
quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
And to clear things up (and for the threadstarter) this is how original deep house sounds like:



ORIGINAL DEEP HOUSE:


The Sun Orchestra - "Together"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF66395-01-02-01.mp3

Inland Knights- "Don't Ever"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF66395-01-02-02.mp3

Moodymann- "I'm Doing Fine"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF144186-02-01-05.mp3

Miguel Migs- "Petalpushing"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF66395-01-03-01.mp3


As you can listen tech house IS a dirtier, more futiristic, stripped-down version of deep house, whereas deep house is the cooler, fuller, organic sound. Still, they can be viewed as a continuum rather then as different genres. Hence one can refer to them as deep/tech house.


Chocolate ice cream is a darker, more chocolatey tasting version of vanilla ice cream. But we don't call it chocolate/vanilla iced cream. You douche.

And this is the original tech house.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=998P6HEzCdI
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