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6 Alarm Fire @ Queen W & Portland, Already burns down 2 buildings.... (pg. 5)
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rabbitjoker
The Home Depot / Condo was planned well before the fire.
Intangible
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Originally posted by jennypie
On a related note, it's been determined that the fire that burned down the historic Wellington Hotel building in Barrie was arson. It's always ty when fire/disaster takes people's homes and possessions away from them...but it's enraging to find out that it's because someone did it on purpose.

But yeah, good to hear nobody got hurt.


I totally agree. Not only was the Barrie fire arson but its linked with insurance fraud as well. Some people are so selfish. Downtown barrie has a very special place in my heart, and seeing the remains of that hotel... it really PISSES ME OFF!

Too many fires in historical downtown areas... Wasaga, Barrie, now this... :(

But on another note, although I think the new RioCan living/retail space is sad, I do have full confidence that they will be successfull in intergrating the building properly into downtown toronto.
Orko
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Originally posted by Intangible
I totally agree. Not only was the Barrie fire arson but its linked with insurance fraud as well. Some people are so selfish. Downtown barrie has a very special place in my heart, and seeing the remains of that hotel... it really PISSES ME OFF!


Somebody did that in a building I was living in as a kid. It was the apartment right beside me. They paid off some guy to detonate a propane tank in the apartment. I was sleeping on the adjacent wall! Being woken up at 6am by a loud explosion is not fun.

They caught the guy as he drove him self to the hospital with multiple burns. They caught the owner of the apartment as well. The worst part of the whole thing is that us, along with the arsonist, were the only ones that had insurance. Most people left their doors open while fleeing, and sustained a lot of smoke damage. My sister was traumatised, and couldn't go back to the apartment.

People are so damn selfish.
Intangible
quote:
Originally posted by Orko
Somebody did that in a building I was living in as a kid. It was the apartment right beside me. They paid off some guy to detonate a propane tank in the apartment. I was sleeping on the adjacent wall! Being woken up at 6am by a loud explosion is not fun.

They caught the guy as he drove him self to the hospital with multiple burns. They caught the owner of the apartment as well. The worst part of the whole thing is that us, along with the arsonist, were the only ones that had insurance. Most people left their doors open while fleeing, and sustained a lot of smoke damage. My sister was traumatised, and couldn't go back to the apartment.

People are so damn selfish.


Wow! That had to have been quite the experience, especially as a kid. I wish people could think about more than just themselves...

:(
rabbitjoker
PreLoved lives on!
Silky Johnson
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Originally posted by Intangible
Too many fires in historical downtown areas... Wasaga, Barrie, now this... :(



Yeah. Interesting thing I learned about Barrie back when we were celebrating our sesquicentennial...most of the original buildings here burned down back in the late 19th century, and for the longest time Barrie was known as "the best burning town in Canada". LoL.

That was the first thing I thought of when the fire at the Wellington happened. :/
Jem_hadar
WOW -- is all I can think to say. Been hearing about this ALL DAY on the news at work (Chay FM) and in my car (on 680 News).


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Originally posted by electro88


Jesus. . . . wow.


quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
On a related note, it's been determined that the fire that burned down the historic Wellington Hotel building in Barrie was arson. It's always ty when fire/disaster takes people's homes and possessions away from them...but it's enraging to find out that it's because someone did it on purpose.


I know. Disgusting and brutal. So sad. . . .

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_tAmiKo_
My favorite bike shop was in that strip
I'm so sad its gone, I spent most of my childhood there, since thats where my family got all our mountain bikes :(
Jeff Button
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Originally posted by _tAmiKo_
My favorite bike shop was in that strip
I'm so sad its gone, I spent most of my childhood there, since thats where my family got all our mountain bikes :(


Here is a link to the Facebook group for Duke's.
Some really great pictures... so much history in that shop judging by some of the shots.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=21947378120
StereoPrincess
I couldn't believe that the bike shop has been around for 94 years!

geez!

that's such a shame it's gone.

i can't wait to find out what was behind this fire.

imagine it's just something like faulty electrical wiring.

Intangible
In some sense I rather it be faulty wiring than some drunk who falls asleep with a cigarette in his/her hand, or worse... another case of arson.

I cant even imagine what these residents and business owners are going through... too loose everything...

But its great to see the community offering a helping hand.

Check out this link to see video footage of the damage and to learn about how you can help out :)

http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/305947

*Also Dukes is mentioned
Swamper
http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/559685

quote:
Mystery of Queen West fire won't be solved
December 30, 2008
Paola Loriggio
Staff Reporter

The cause of the massive fire that gutted a strip of Queen St. W. in February will remain a mystery, after fire officials said today they were unable to determine what set off the flames.

Investigators with the Office of the Fire Marshal found the fire erupted on the main floor of 615/617 Queen St. W. – what used to be National Sound – but "the amount of damage in that area means we can't come up with a cause," said Fire Investigations Manager Chris Williams.

In dealing with a blaze of this size, investigators first isolate the area of origin, then methodically identify and eliminate potential ignition sources, Williams said. But the flames sometimes compromise physical evidence – such as electrical wires or candles – that could hold the answer, or at least some clues, he said.

Under those circumstances, the office has no choice but to label the cause "undetermined," Williams said. That happens in about 22 percent of cases, he said.

The investigation stretched over months as the OFM, along with Toronto Police, tracked down and interviewed witnesses, including the buildings' former occupants.

Williams said the office considers the case closed, unless new information surfaces.

"At this point, if something new or unexpected came in, we'd review it in the context of the file."

The six-alarm blaze started around dawn Feb. 20 and quickly engulfed a strip of century-old buildings, gutting six and sending the landmark bike shop Duke's Cycle to the ground. Many more were damaged by the fire, or by smoke and water. Up to 60 people lost their homes or jobs.

Many of the buildings' owners awaited the result of the investigation, hoping it would tie up loose ends and help negotiations with insurance companies.
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