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| darkt |
should I apply a low pass filter on my kick and bass ?
1. on self made kick ?
2. on sample cd kicks eg. from vengeance/uberschall,etc
what settings should I apply on the filter ?
I'm a newbie to production and would enjoy ur advise. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| Depends on what kind of sound you want. |
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| barnes17 |
| What do your ears tell you? |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| Do you really need to make a new thread about everything? |
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| Dj Nacht |
| Put a lowpass and cut everything below 40hz. |
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| darkt |
Is there a problem that I started a new thread...where else i'm suppose to post this type of question ?
so I lowpass at 40. some filters have a q ? What setting i'm I looking at here ? |
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| derail |
(Dj Nacht, I'm sure you mean a high pass filter... you're not going to hear much with a low pass filter set to 40 Hz...)
darkt, heaps of kick samples are fine to use as is (like the Vengeance ones). I sometimes do a tiny little bit of notch eq'ing to slot into the track a little better, but that's it.
As MrJiveBoJingles said, it totally depends on what kind of sound you want. We have no idea what your preference is. The question is kind of like asking "should I like Tiesto's music better, or Armin's?" (I'm just using these two names as examples, substitute any names you want in there.
We can't tell you whether you like Tiesto's tracks better or Armin's, and we can't tell you whether you like the sound of LPF-d kicks better or not. Get into the studio and work it out. |
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| jupiterone |
| quote: | Originally posted by darkt
What setting i'm I looking at here ? |
the one that sounds good to you. there is no 'default' setting rule for filters. experiment |
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| Blahzaay |
What happens if you slap on a high pass filter on a sample that already has the exact same high pass filter settings applied to it?? I have purchased high quality drum hits from various locations and have always wondered, since they have obviously already been processed, if I put a high pass filter on a sample again just to be safe, does it affect the sample at all? Or am I essentially filtering out nothing? My Quad Core really lets me put on as many plugins on a track as i like so I don't mind putting a High Pass filter on these samples, but as long as it's not going to ruin the bottom end at all...
Anyone? |
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| 3F05Q |
| quote: | Originally posted by Blahzaay
What happens if you slap on a high pass filter on a sample that already has the exact same high pass filter settings applied to it?? I have purchased high quality drum hits from various locations and have always wondered, since they have obviously already been processed, if I put a high pass filter on a sample again just to be safe, does it affect the sample at all? Or am I essentially filtering out nothing? My Quad Core really lets me put on as many plugins on a track as i like so I don't mind putting a High Pass filter on these samples, but as long as it's not going to ruin the bottom end at all...
Anyone? |
Putting, say, a HP filter @ x Hz on something that's already been HP filtered at x Hz will result in a steeper cut. Just imagine an untouched sample, and you put a HP filter on it, then you copy that exact filter and put it after. You end up with a total of a steeper slope. So, a 12dB/octave cut at 1kHz + 12dB/octave cut at 1kHz would be the same as a 24dB/octave cut at 1kHz. (Right? my maths is right, right?) |
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| derail |
I think you're right, 3F05Q.
Blahzaay, why are you putting filters on individual sounds that don't need them? If you're putting a filter on an individual sound, listen to the sound and whether or not it requires a filter (or use a spectrum analyzer if you think it may have extremely low frequencies your monitors aren't reproducing).
If you want to "just be safe", that no ultra-low frequencies are coming through, you can apply these filters to audio groups (like, route all your pads into a group, for example, or your percussive elements). Then you can just set a high pass filter for the group and you'll know that group of sounds is "safe", without having to worry about each sample. In practical terms, if a sample already has all or most of a frequency range cut away, applying a filter to it will have no/nearly no audible effect. |
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| Blahzaay |
| quote: | Originally posted by 3F05Q
Putting, say, a HP filter @ x Hz on something that's already been HP filtered at x Hz will result in a steeper cut. Just imagine an untouched sample, and you put a HP filter on it, then you copy that exact filter and put it after. You end up with a total of a steeper slope. So, a 12dB/octave cut at 1kHz + 12dB/octave cut at 1kHz would be the same as a 24dB/octave cut at 1kHz. (Right? my maths is right, right?) |
Makes sense to me... but lets say your monitors only go down to 40hz. How would you tell if the sample has already been filtered at 12db if you can't hear anything lower?
What happens to the sound when you re-apply the filter to sub-groups, meaning your sample has been filtered possibly 2 or 3 times? I usually high pass filter my bass and kick separately, send them to the kick-bass sub-group and filter them again just to be safe. I have seen instances where people have thrown filters on or eq'ed every single audio track/sub-group/group possible. Is this a big no no? |
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