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Obama's Speech on Race (pg. 4)
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
me now we're calling into question the importance of being editor of the Harvard Law Review?
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seriously |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
seriously |
Absolutely mind blowing the people can dig on someone with a solid record while turning a blind eye to someone like George Bush.
Where the were all you guys in 2004? Furiously debating on messageboards why democrats are "soft on terror?" :stongue: :stongue: |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
Oh God, the inaccuracies in this thread.
1. Rev. Wright is not a member of the Obama campaign. Stop watching FoxNews.
2. The editor of the Harvard Law Review isn't a writer... it's the person who has final say which articles make the journal. So of course Obama doesn't have a by-line. Do you think Rupert Murdoch's name appears next to everything published in the Wall Street Journal? |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Stop watching FoxNews. |
Unlikely, for the reasons I outlined above. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
2. The editor of the Harvard Law Review isn't a writer... it's the person who has final say which articles make the journal. So of course Obama doesn't have a by-line. Do you think Rupert Murdoch's name appears next to everything published in the Wall Street Journal? |
just to clarify that point, the members of the HLR must compete in a writing competition to get on the journal. So, in that sense a member of the journal must be a good writer. On top of that, as a member of the journal, the students must write a note or article in order to get academic credit (at least that's how it worked at my school). Most student articles/notes don't get published, however, because journals only provide a few spots for the notes of students on that journal and there are many more members of the journal than there are spaces available for student submissions. Otherwise, the student has to submit the article to a journal for publication and compete with career academics, which is not an easy task for a student whose time is not entirely devoted to publishing. |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by LatinLover
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I see the Tranceaddict, formerly 4x suspended professor has decided to grace us once again.
My heart almost skipped a little beat. |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
pretty much however the crux of Gingrich's argument was stated as a question to Obama:
"If you knew a year ago that he was saying things so dishonest, so anti American, so hateful that you were going to have to disown him then as a study in change as a study in idealism and a study in courage, why did you only disown him when it became such a big political issue….and if you thought what he was saying was false and wrong and to be condemned why didn’t you care enough for him to try and teach him the truth?" |
It's a little confusing to me how Obama would have somehow known about this speech when he wasn't in the crowd on that day. I don't want to play coy here, and I concede that perhaps he may have likely known, but to me it's the very same reason why McCain SHOULD have known about the divisive and vitriolic character Pastor Hagee is with what he's stated about the Catholic church before he took his endorsement with full glee.
| quote: | | i don't wholly disagree with what you are saying about race/media/religious leaders or even what Obama's speech was intending for the most part. |
I appreciate that.
| quote: | | Jeremiah Wright, however, to Obama, was not what Falwell or Roberts was to Bush in any stretch of the imagination and i think you know that. |
I don't know that because I don't quite see where the line is drawn here between the two/three characters here. According to you, Obama not only should have known what this guy was saying about race in America (which I may concede the point), but that he should have told him up front that he was wrong and not post-facto once Wright's sermon got out.
How can that be any different than Hagee's comments about the Catholic Church and McCain fully embracing the man EVEN AFTER McCain knew what Hagee had said? Or when Falwell or Roberts with their disgusting comments on homosexuality or our country deserved what it got either on 9/11 or Katrina, still whispering in the ear of Bush. When did Bush disavow what either one of them has said, even after the fact? If anything, Obama has done something that none of these other characters have done - distanced himself from the comments Wright has made. Has Bush or McCain done the same yet?
| quote: | | Obama knew where Jeremiah Wright stood politically and philosophically when he brought him onboard his staff, "making such a person a guiding light in one's spiritual life". he knew and only came up with the courage to distance himself when it was politically advantageous to so. and on the surface only wanted distance when Wrights true colors became public. |
As Lebez pointed out, when exactly did Wright become a member of his campaign?
And when will McCain tell that nutbag Hagee who prays for the end of the world to come to go take a hike? |
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| MisterOpus1 |
Wait a minute, our good Pastor Hagee stated in the NYTimes that McCain aggressively sought Hagee's endorsement:
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/e...t_id=1003728364
Huh? Surely John would have known what kind of man and inflammatory comments Pastor Hagee has said in the past? And he AGGRESSIVELY pursued his endorsement?
Why does McCain hate Catholics so much? For shame. |
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| Clovis |
| Opus, I largely agree with you, but Obama hasn't quite distanced himself from Wright's remarks. What he has done is confront them HONESTLY. And acknowledge real reasons for their existence. He deplores them on the grounds they they are divisive and not constructive, but he explained well in the speech why such comments are made, and why others like them are made, and where the anger comes from. |
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| LazFX |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
I see the Tranceaddict, formerly 4x suspended professor has decided to grace us once again.
My heart almost skipped a little beat. |
ha ha ha :D professor?? Professor of Slinging bull .. lol |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
Opus, I largely agree with you, but Obama hasn't quite distanced himself from Wright's remarks. What he has done is confront them HONESTLY. And acknowledge real reasons for their existence. He deplores them on the grounds they they are divisive and not constructive, but he explained well in the speech why such comments are made, and why others like them are made, and where the anger comes from. |
Point taken. |
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| Clovis |
| I mean seriously, go get hired at Fox News guys, you'd fit in so well it's astonishing. |
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