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Jocker
hmm... never used it. the channel faders are giving me much more precision in operation. maybe you could tell a couple of tricks (really improving the mix) that i could do with x-fader, and not the channel faders?
hapamoto
um... if u cut between tracks back and forth its much easier to do w/ the x-fader than w/ volume controls.. but i do this more w/ house and hard house than w/ trance.. i dunno, be creative and find your own use for the x-fader
Jocker
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Originally posted by hapamoto
um... if u cut between tracks back and forth its much easier to do w/ the x-fader than w/ volume controls.. but i do this more w/ house and hard house than w/ trance.. i dunno, be creative and find your own use for the x-fader


i have already found: if i set the x-fader channels to the ones that are not currently playing, the sound will fade away if the x-fader is moved in either direction from the center, which makes the "fade-in - fade-out" thing much faster and can create a cool sound effect. but i doubt that noone else questions the usefullness of such a trick:D
hapamoto
hey man.. never doubt your creativity.. if you find out some cool tricks and , perfect them.. don't limit yourself!
Great Outdoors
It's an essential tool for scratchers and turntablists. I don't know too much about either to comment, but if you want the fading effect then it would probably come in handy; you know, instead of fading out one channel THEN fading in the other, the cross fader will accomplish the same task with more convenience and precision.
DJTJ
Exactly. You really need a crossfader for scratching - you try crabbing with a line fader!

As has been said, crossfaders are more useful in hip-hop/drum n bass than in house and trance, this is why many house-oriented clubs will have rotary mixers from Urei or Rane, whereas hip-hop clubs will have mixers with crossfaders.

Crossfaders are for tricks really, rather than creating smooth mixes.
Great Outdoors
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Originally posted by DJTJ
this is why many house-oriented clubs will have rotary mixers from Urei or Rane


DJTJ, what's a rotary mixer?
Acid Circus
Rotary just means that you don't have linear faders, but just like typical EQ's you have "knobs" which you rotate to change the level volume. I find this so much more comfortable as you can really get a smooth effect that cannot be matched using linear faders. Thats why I instinctivly go for the gain knobs before using the linear channel faders, I can get it so much smoother this way and then knock the rest of the volume off using the faders!
Great Outdoors
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Originally posted by Acid Circus
Rotary just means that you don't have linear faders, but just like typical EQ's you have "knobs" which you rotate to change the level volume. I find this so much more comfortable as you can really get a smooth effect that cannot be matched using linear faders. Thats why I instinctivly go for the gain knobs before using the linear channel faders, I can get it so much smoother this way and then knock the rest of the volume off using the faders!


I have linear volume faders on my mixer, but I keep them up on both channel all the time, only using the rotary knobs for mixing. I guess that should qualify my mixer as a rotary one too, huh. :)
Michael Russo
What mixer do u have? I've never heard of one with both knobs and faders for each channel......... or are u talking about the gain?

hapamoto
yes he is talking about the gain knob.. however on some mixers, the gain will not cut a track out completely.. meaning if u still have the volume all the way up for one track, u can still hear it even if the gain is all the way down, but you do get a smoother transition then if u were to solely use the volume fader to transition..
Great Outdoors
I'm not talking about the gain knobs, actually. I meant to say that when I mix, I turn the treble, mid and the bass knobs (the EQ knobs, in other words) all the way DOWN when I want to mute that channel, instead of shifting my linear volume slider. My volume slider is perpetually up all the way in both my channels.

So when I mix, I'm only touching the EQs on both channels and nothing else. It sounds wrong I know..
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