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Ecstasy in moderation alleviates depression? (pg. 3)
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| silene |
| quote: | Originally posted by Taranis
This is exactly it. It gives you a chance to look at things from another perspective, and a chance to enjoy a couple hours without the constant crush of stress and negative thoughts. I know that I usually come out of a night on pills feeling much better about myself and the world around me, and the first time I tried MDMA completely changed my outlook on life (for the better).
Of course this often leads to people abusing the drug heavily, which leads to ty comedowns and ing up your serotonin system, which would only compound any pre-existing depression. But taken safely, I think MDMA is something that can really help give you a much more positive outlook on life. |
Before my first e trip, I was already a pretty social person with very few inhibitions and genuine love for others. The e just enhanced it by removing any self-doubts that remained, and that feeling carried over into the rest of my life ever since :).
What a constructive comment :rolleyes: ; same as your previous one in this thread. Not everyone does mind-altering drugs just so they could have an excuse to be a retarded sweaty idiot. If approached with the right mindset, the possibilities for introspection are enormous. |
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| CONNERMAN2000 |
Ecstasy is not a psychedelic drug, however through the experience of it, the user can create a substitute for depression via reflecting on the good mood they were in while they were on the drug. If that makes any sense at all.
Basically this study was performed terribly and MDMA has different reactions on everybody from a emotional point of view once the roll is done. |
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| silene |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
How else do you diagnose depression other than through subjective patient responses? Is there a blood test for depression out now that I'm not aware of? |
I'm by no means an expert on this subject, but in some cases a hormonal imbalance is responsible for depression; such an imbalance could be verified through a blood test. Obviously, this is clinical depression that is often quite severe. The study could have been referring to one's overall sense of happiness and well-being, which - you're right - cannot be quantified through a hormone test. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by silene
What a constructive comment :rolleyes: ; same as your previous one in this thread. Not everyone does mind-altering drugs just so they could have an excuse to be a retarded sweaty idiot. If approached with the right mindset, the possibilities for introspection are enormous. |
it is constructive if people become aware of their state of redardism due to my helpful criticism.
people that require drugs for "introspection" probably arent very bright to begin with, so how far can they really go? but in any case, my comment referred to someone whose outlook on life changed just because they took a pill. retarded. |
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| silene |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
it is constructive if people become aware of their state of redardism due to my helpful criticism.
people that require drugs for "introspection" probably arent very bright to begin with, so how far can they really go? but in any case, my comment referred to someone whose outlook on life changed just because they took a pill. retarded. |
As in the 'music saved my life' kind of retarded? :D
And I'm not so sure that introspection requires intelligence; more an emotional state of being and readiness. Some people may be able to reach that state with chemical aid, though it is unlikely that they would go all the way from 0 to 60 just by popping a pill. As an aside, however, LSD is known to destroy barriers between conscious and subconscious, making it potentially dangerous to one's sanity. |
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| daves |
there have been a few trials of MDMA going around in the past little while... some people within varying degrees of depression, and PTSD-type issues have tried it and there have been some reports of some very positive results (people who have been shutdown for some time and have opened up entirely and talked and gained a lot from sessions with psychiatrists while within the altered state)
it's interesting to see what may come of this - i could see possible benefits to it (and it's not really a physically-addictive substance in the style of heroin/opioids***)
I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up getting moved down to a lower schedule within the next decade and change pending further studies, one in which it is not illegal to have prescribed but is illegal to seek to obtain (such as schedule IV under Canada's CDSA act, where benzo's and a few others reside right now)
[***when not mixed together along with meth/detergent/caffeine/heroin/other junk] |
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| NeoPhono |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
it is constructive if people become aware of their state of redardism due to my helpful criticism.
people that require drugs for "introspection" probably arent very bright to begin with, so how far can they really go? but in any case, my comment referred to someone whose outlook on life changed just because they took a pill. retarded. |
I didn't hear anyone say they "required" a drug for introspection, simply that they found it easier to do so while on a drug. I don't see what the big deal is about that. Throughout history many cultures have used drugs for that very reason and I don't see why modern culture is any different. Now, if you're addicted to a drug, or require it in order to be able to self-reflect or to find meaning in life, than yes, you have a problem. However, using it casually and recreationally in a smart and safe manner isn't an issue, in my opinion. Is it better to be drug free? Of course. I don't see people complaining when someone takes ibuprofen for a headache or an antacid for reflux, so why is it alright for people to jump on someone for taking a drug to change their mental perspective? |
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| Mattsanity |
| anyone who gets depressed after ecstasy use is just straight and should get his balls cut off. first of all, people take ecstasy because it gets them happy but when the effects wear out and you wake up the next day feeling absolutely and dont put any effort in being happy while sober KNOWing you're gonna have your next pill after some time, then they should just quit taking E and being some holy religious person, simple as that. smart E users know that their willpower will have to get them through the soberish times but they know that E will relieve their tensions again. so basically, what I'm saying is that E shouldnt be taken and reminisced on while you're on the effect. it should also give you an enlightening thought process while you're sober. "I'm sober and Im struggling right now but I know that through my willpower, I will be able to pull through this and a nice dose of stackers will be upon my grasp in a short while." now that's the right mentality |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mattsanity
anyone who gets depressed after ecstasy use is just straight and should get his balls cut off. first of all, people take ecstasy because it gets them happy but when the effects wear out and you wake up the next day feeling absolutely and dont put any effort in being happy while sober KNOWing you're gonna have your next pill after some time, then they should just quit taking E and being some holy religious person, simple as that. smart E users know that their willpower will have to get them through the soberish times but they know that E will relieve their tensions again. so basically, what I'm saying is that E shouldnt be taken and reminisced on while you're on the effect. it should also give you an enlightening thought process while you're sober. "I'm sober and Im struggling right now but I know that through my willpower, I will be able to pull through this and a nice dose of stackers will be upon my grasp in a short while." now that's the right mentality |
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...0&forumid=16&s= |
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| silene |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mattsanity
anyone who gets depressed after ecstasy use is just straight and should get his balls cut off. first of all, people take ecstasy because it gets them happy but when the effects wear out and you wake up the next day feeling absolutely and dont put any effort in being happy while sober KNOWing you're gonna have your next pill after some time, then they should just quit taking E and being some holy religious person, simple as that. smart E users know that their willpower will have to get them through the soberish times but they know that E will relieve their tensions again. so basically, what I'm saying is that E shouldnt be taken and reminisced on while you're on the effect. it should also give you an enlightening thought process while you're sober. "I'm sober and Im struggling right now but I know that through my willpower, I will be able to pull through this and a nice dose of stackers will be upon my grasp in a short while." now that's the right mentality |
lol that sounds like a mentality of a serious addict :p. Though I guess all of us have different reasons for looking forward to the weekend.
edit - just checked this guy's appreciation thread. Plow on, my man! :haha: |
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mattsanity
anyone who gets depressed after ecstasy use is just straight and should get his balls cut off. first of all, people take ecstasy because it gets them happy but when the effects wear out and you wake up the next day feeling absolutely and dont put any effort in being happy while sober KNOWing you're gonna have your next pill after some time, then they should just quit taking E and being some holy religious person, simple as that. smart E users know that their willpower will have to get them through the soberish times but they know that E will relieve their tensions again. so basically, what I'm saying is that E shouldnt be taken and reminisced on while you're on the effect. it should also give you an enlightening thought process while you're sober. "I'm sober and Im struggling right now but I know that through my willpower, I will be able to pull through this and a nice dose of stackers will be upon my grasp in a short while." now that's the right mentality |
Seriously, who is this gimp? Is his account a joke? |
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| Mattsanity |
| quote: | Originally posted by nchs09
Seriously, who is this gimp? Is his account a joke? |
wtf? Im the bonified truth f4ggot |
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