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Why is it so hard for some people to find jobs in the US? (pg. 2)
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| gimmebeatz |
| forget a job...be your own boss if you ever want to get ahead. |
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| LionsLair |
On the reality side...
In GDP terms, America would be a fragment in size if we did not participate in world trade. Imagine an economy where all you can buy is American goods and services, and America could not export anything out of America to other countries. America benefits heavily from being able to offer Chinese,Indian,Japanese,German,Dutch,Mexican goods here. World trade allows them to do business with a far bigger market, a worldwide market. And most of the time an American good/service does well because many countries that we trade with dont have the resources to create better competing products, so their consumers buy up the American product, while the countries that export to America have to compete with many substitute American goods. |
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| Boomer187 |
one guy said to me early in life, he said there are two jobs I can get. I can dig the hole, or I can tell someone else to dig the hole. I think here every other country is digging the hole, we are still telling them to dig the hole (we get profitz!)
start a company....or a casino :) |
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| stefanoc |
| quote: | Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal
Just a joke but kind of serious too...
Joe Smith started the day early having set his alarm clock (made in Japan) for 6am. While his coffee pot (made in China) was perking, he shaved with his electric razor (made in Hong Kong). He put on a dress shirt (made in Sri Lanka), designer jeans (made in Singapore) and his shoes (made in Korea). After cooking his breakfast in his new electric skillet (made in India) he sat down with his calculator (made in Mexico) to see how much he could spend today. After setting his watch (made in Taiwan) to the radio (made in India) he got in his car (made in Germany) filled it with GAS (from Saudi Arabia) and continued his search for a good paying AMERICAN JOB. At the end of yet another discouraging and fruitless day checking his Computer (made in Malaysia), Joe decided to relax for a while. He put on his sandals (made in BRAZIL) poured himself a glass of wine (made in France) and turned on his TV (made in Indonesia), and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in.. AMERICA ....
Maybe he can apply to join the Airforce and fly one of their soon to be made in France tanker jets!!!!!!! |
America's 60% output in GDP is in services which is why you don't see products made in america.
most of the oil we buy is from canada, not saudi arabia.
and alot of the wine consumed in america is made in california, maybe some of the wine drinkers here can confirm. californian wine consumption will increase in times such as now due to high european goods prices |
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| the_jerk |
| The original post is talking about pure manufacturing. The reason all these products are made elsewhere is very simple, it's cheaper to manufacture goods outside of the US. If you want someone to blame, blame the unions (or the consumers themselves for demanding more inexpensive products). The bottom line is that it doesn't take much skilled labor to assemble an alarm clock. This is why sweat shops exist around the world. I believe every worker deserves a set of rights (working conditions, adequate pay, etc), but there are too many people in other countries that are not in a position to demand such luxuries. |
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| R!CH |
| unless you're a factory worker yourself, i don't understand why anyone is concerned with this country losing factory labor jobs. not only is it natural that the type of work in a technological economy constantly evolves, but imo this particular kind of change is a good thing. manufacturing produces a lot of pollution, waste and resource consumption and leaves you with slum communities after all is said and done. i'd rather have that kind of stuff taken care of somewhere else than here. this is a world where you have to learn to be dynamic and adaptable in order to remain relevant, you can't expect to be a clerk, driver or factory hand for the same company for 40 years and retire comfortably at 60. when the jobs change, so should you. go back to school joe ;) |
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| bas |
| quote: | Originally posted by Drake66
i like japanese tv's never seen a good american tv yet :p |
American TVs don't exist anymore. |
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| Nerologic |
| quote: | | Originally posted by the_jerk If you want someone to blame, blame the unions |
Negative.
If anything, unions help keep jobs with in the borders. |
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| the_jerk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nerologic
Negative.
If anything, unions help keep jobs with in the borders. |
I think you must have misunderstood what I was saying. Unions contribute to the problem of the loss of manufacturing jobs because they make the costs of conducting business in the US too high. Therefore, to compete on a global level, these products end up being manufactured in a country without unions.
The problem with the loss of manufacturing as an industry in the US is the reduction of the size of the middle class. The divide between rich and poor is growing at fast rate. I think this is a bad trend, but am unsure what can be done about it. |
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| Nerologic |
| quote: | Originally posted by the_jerk
I think you must have misunderstood what I was saying. Unions contribute to the problem of the loss of manufacturing jobs because they make the costs of conducting business in the US too high. Therefore, to compete on a global level, these products end up being manufactured in a country without unions. |
Ahh, i see what you are saying.
It could be a partial factor, but i don't think its that big of a factor. Industries without unions here still charge more then the 12 year olds in Beijing.
And the greedy corps want to make profit, so they out source  |
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| djThomasPhan |
| quote: | Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal
Just a joke but kind of serious too...
Joe Smith started the day early having set his alarm clock (made in Japan) for 6am. While his coffee pot (made in China) was perking, he shaved with his electric razor (made in Hong Kong). He put on a dress shirt (made in Sri Lanka), designer jeans (made in Singapore) and his shoes (made in Korea). After cooking his breakfast in his new electric skillet (made in India) he sat down with his calculator (made in Mexico) to see how much he could spend today. After setting his watch (made in Taiwan) to the radio (made in India) he got in his car (made in Germany) filled it with GAS (from Saudi Arabia) and continued his search for a good paying AMERICAN JOB. At the end of yet another discouraging and fruitless day checking his Computer (made in Malaysia), Joe decided to relax for a while. He put on his sandals (made in BRAZIL) poured himself a glass of wine (made in France) and turned on his TV (made in Indonesia), and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in.. AMERICA ....
Maybe he can apply to join the Airforce and fly one of their soon to be made in France tanker jets!!!!!!! |
Nice post Billy. Guess we out source a lot of jobs so the world won't starve from hunger.
Anyhow, my Dell computer's made in China, my monitor's assemble in Mexico, my computer speaker and mouse's made in China. My ass was stamped Made In Vietnam, but somehow got shipped to the U.S. wtf? :toothless |
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| DaveT |
Some unions just want outrageous money. And in some places you are FORCED to use them.
Want to use a city owned venue and build something in it (like stage? exhibition hall, etc). You _have_ to go through the union and have them load in, load out. Have some of your own setup to do? Whelp, don't plan on being able to do a damn thing while they are on lunch or on break. You MUST stop and wait for them to return. Have an emergency during setting over the weekend? Gotta pay the double union for double-time. You need to bring some gear from you office last minute in a company truck to...say...the Moscone Center? How about being forced to drive to Candlestick park, weigh the ruck, go to Moscone and wait for the Teamsters to unload, and then drive back to Candlestick to reweigh the truck...so you can be charged per pound for the unloading. Basically the rule is if you can't carry what you need in from another building in your hands in yourself and need to use a cart or anything, you have to go through the Teamsters. And I knowthis is the same in LA and in Las Veas
Idiotic isn't it? The people who work for Teamster are generally asses. They are bitches about everything. You do run into a person who is laid back every once in awhile, though...anyhow, generally they are bitches and they love to mumble how they have to get paid and stuff...yet, when companies who are doing things at these events have to go through all this bullcrap to get stuff in, that' can be dozens of hours of work lost when you add up all the time the team of employees are standing there doing nothing while they wait for the trucks to be taken to be weighed and then come back and wait in line to be unloaded. It's rediculous and obviously are only caring about themselves with their rule, rediculous rates, and total disregard about how their rules effect other companies at these important events.
I hate unions!!! Though I wouldn't mind being in a good one cause it generally means more job security lol. |
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