Originally posted by Fir3start3r
damnit, you beat me to it....:crazy:
NERDS!! you and everyone else that got that! ha ha
one of the best Lucas lines EVAR!!
lol
Renegade
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Originally posted by Krypton
No they don't. They believe in a literal 24 hour period, 7 literal 24 hour days of creation.
1. God does not follow human time scales.
2. No one can state what time scale God follows. All one can say is it is eternity. David was reflecting on God when he said, "1000 days to us is like a day to God." That is not catagorically stating God follows a 1 earth day = 1 God day time scale.
My entire point is, Creationism puts God in a box. They are heretics.
In the Genesis creation account, the word "day" is translated from the Hebrew word "yom". Everywhere else in the Bible, the word "yom" refers to a literal day (and still does in the Hebrew language for all I know - "Yom Kippur", for instance) so I don't think it's too controversial to say that the authors of the text had in mind literal twenty-four days when they penned it. To pretend otherwise is to pretend that the ancient Hebrews had significant knowledge of cosmology that they chose to elucidate solely through the medium of misleading metaphors.
Remember, the Pentateuch was written by a backwards, insular tribe of pastoralists about 2,500 years ago at the latest. Their scientific understanding of the natural world was probably no greater than that of the average 5 year old today, so it's no great surprise that their naivete is reflected in their text. Yes, believing that the universe was created in 6 literal days is theologically crude. Yes you'd have to be an idiot to believe that there is a mote of scientific insight to be found anywhere in this text. But don't forget, either, that these are the lofty intellectual heights from which all modern Jewish, Christian and Islamic theology is founded!
LazFX
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Originally posted by Renegade
But don't forget, either, that these are the lofty intellectual heights from which all modern Jewish, Christian and Islamic theology is founded!
and ain't it weird that these same religions are the pebble in mankind's shoe?
Abraham should of died in a frigging fire! between these "people" they have really screwed the pooch .....
New Religions are so passe.
:rolleyes:
_Ocean_Drive_
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
It never ceases to amaze me that the most advanced nation tolerates this kind of nonsense.
D'you know, just for once, I'd love to see some intelligent debate on religion in here.
Newsflash: Being a Christian does NOT automatically equate to literal-translation-bible-thumping lunatic.:whip: :rolleyes:
Zild
I just can't take anyone seriously who takes the Bible literally. Do they not understand that any great work of literature is deep and has many levels of meaning besides the literal face value?
Spike
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Originally posted by LazFX
this is what will lead to the down fall of man.....
please watch this video and make your own unbiased mind up if this is what should be taught to our children.....
ugh what a pile of steaming
shaolin_Z
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Originally posted by Renegade
In the Genesis creation account, the word "day" is translated from the Hebrew word "yom". Everywhere else in the Bible, the word "yom" refers to a literal day (and still does in the Hebrew language for all I know - "Yom Kippur", for instance) so I don't think it's too controversial to say that the authors of the text had in mind literal twenty-four days when they penned it. To pretend otherwise is to pretend that the ancient Hebrews had significant knowledge of cosmology that they chose to elucidate solely through the medium of misleading metaphors.
Remember, the Pentateuch was written by a backwards, insular tribe of pastoralists about 2,500 years ago at the latest. Their scientific understanding of the natural world was probably no greater than that of the average 5 year old today, so it's no great surprise that their naivete is reflected in their text. Yes, believing that the universe was created in 6 literal days is theologically crude. Yes you'd have to be an idiot to believe that there is a mote of scientific insight to be found anywhere in this text. But don't forget, either, that these are the lofty intellectual heights from which all modern Jewish, Christian and Islamic theology is founded!
Well, you know I'm not a creationist or even a Christian, so I'm obviously not defending or counter arguing anything here. But to be fair, the word "yom" in Hebrew, Hebrew being a semitic language, isn't rectricted to a singular meaning and like other semitic languages does have several shades of meaning.
"Yom" can referd to:
a point in time
a twenty-four hour period
a year (at least in it's plural form)
a general and vague reference to an undefined period of "time,"
the period of light
Modern academics and Hebrew authorities attest that "Yom" is cab be used to denote anywhere from twelve hours up to a year, as well even a undefined time period.
Just wanted to add that.
MisterOpus1
In other news, a healthy portion of American dips believe Saddam attacked us on 9/11.
There's nothing that can be said of such individuals, only that they're clueless twits who have a certain brand of unshakable beliefs, despite any evidence that should knock a blind, deaf, and dumb man over.
There's a great deal of fear of the unknown, and often times these people are looking for someone who either perceives themselves or someone else brands them as an "authority" figure to tell them what to think and do. That authoritarian can very well be a minister, a priest, a President, a husband (or wife), a Faux News mouthpiece, a radio blowhard, etc.
These individuals WANT to be told what to think since they themselves either have no time or little capacity to do it on their own. It's a sad state of affairs, but that's 1/2 of our American society for you, if not more.
Fir3start3r
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Originally posted by MisterOpus1
In other news, a healthy portion of American dips believe Saddam attacked us on 9/11.
There's nothing that can be said of such individuals, only that they're clueless twits who have a certain brand of unshakable beliefs, despite any evidence that should knock a blind, deaf, and dumb man over.
There's a great deal of fear of the unknown, and often times these people are looking for someone who either perceives themselves or someone else brands them as an "authority" figure to tell them what to think and do. That authoritarian can very well be a minister, a priest, a President, a husband (or wife), a Faux News mouthpiece, a radio blowhard, etc.
These individuals WANT to be told what to think since they themselves either have no time or little capacity to do it on their own. It's a sad state of affairs, but that's 1/2 of our American society for you, if not more.
...and they're all yours ;) :p
LazFX
ITS SPREADING!!!!!!
wow
_Ocean_Drive_
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Originally posted by LazFX
ITS SPREADING!!!!!!
wow
rofflewaffles.
I love the fac facts and figures he uses to state his claims!
