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Question Regarding Send Channels in FL Studio
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| System101 |
In previous version of FL (Fl 3-4)when you routed a fx channel to a send channel the send would not affect the original channel's volume. you would just hear the delay or the reverb that you had assigned to that channel.
i've being trying to figure out why my send channels add volume to the original channel in FL 7. In fact when the volume of the original channel is muted i could still hear the melody playing through my send channel.
i thought the whole point of having a send channel was so that when you add delays and reverb you would only hear the added delay and reverb and nothing else.
the setting that i usually use for the send channel are: the preset volume of the send channel and 70% (less or more)on the routed send knob.
is there something that I'm doing wrong?
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| DJ Robby Rox |
| quote: | Originally posted by System101
In previous version of FL (Fl 3-4)when you routed a fx channel to a send channel the send would not affect the original channel's volume. you would just hear the delay or the reverb that you had assigned to that channel.
i've being trying to figure out why my send channels add volume to the original channel in FL 7. In fact when the volume of the original channel is muted i could still hear the melody playing through my send channel.
i thought the whole point of having a send channel was so that when you add delays and reverb you would only hear the added delay and reverb and nothing else.
the setting that i usually use for the send channel are: the preset volume of the send channel and 70% (less or more)on the routed send knob.
is there something that I'm doing wrong?
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If you need a better explantion let me know.
Whatever you are sending to the send track, theres a little knob on the bottom of the channel you are sending. It must be turned all the way to the right. 100%
Otherwise what you're getting is 2 channels splitting (partial going to the master/partial going to the send than back to the master) than recombining which is adding the volume plus feeding out to the master still when muted.
Just turn it all the way to the right. =] |
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| echosystm |
when you send to a channel, it is like double routing...
source------------> master
|---->sendchannel-----^
so obviously you get double the dry sound. what you need to do is set the mix knob on your send effect to 100% wet, with no dry. this way, the send channel only returns the effect, not the effect+dry.
it is the same principle for any other daw too... not just fl. |
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| Elec |
| I'm not sure what knob you guys are talking about but in FL I find it easiest to send using those little buttons with arrows on them under the receiving channel's volume knob. If you are sending the signal to another channel, then click that button on the master to disable sending that signal to master in the first place (the channel which you are sending must be selected to do this). |
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| System101 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
If you need a better explantion let me know.
Whatever you are sending to the send track, theres a little knob on the bottom of the channel you are sending. It must be turned all the way to the right. 100%
Otherwise what you're getting is 2 channels splitting (partial going to the master/partial going to the send than back to the master) than recombining which is adding the volume plus feeding out to the master still when muted.
Just turn it all the way to the right. =] |
hey thanks a lot for your reply. I understand what you said regarding channels getting split. I only see 2 knobs. one knob is routed to the master Fx and it is located under it which is at 72% or whatever the defeat number is. and the other one is routed to the send channel.
i'm assuming you are talking about the one that is located under the master channel. the knob that routes it channel to the master. right? |
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| System101 |
hey thanks for the effort but i can't download it. it's telling me "You don't have permission to view this file" |
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| Elec |
| quote: | Originally posted by System101
hey thanks a lot for your reply. I understand what you said regarding channels getting split. I only see 2 knobs. one knob is routed to the master Fx and it is located under it which is at 72% or whatever the defeat number is. and the other one is routed to the send channel.
i'm assuming you are talking about the one that is located under the master channel. the knob that routes it channel to the master. right? |
Yes, either turn the one under the master channel all the way down or just click the orange button with an arrow under that knob to disable sending to the master all together, since the channel to which you sent will be sending the signal to the master by itself. |
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| echosystm |
| quote: | Originally posted by System101
hey thanks for the effort but i can't download it. it's telling me "You don't have permission to view this file" |
my bad!
http://stashbox.org/96046/sends.zip |
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| echosystm |
elec & robby rox, you have the whole thing confused.
a SEND is used for effects. ROUTING is outputting the entire output of one channel to another. download the FLP file i linked above and have a look. this is the propper way to do it.
CLAP is ROUTED to the MUTE ME channel, but has a SEND to the REVERB SEND channel.
i routed the clap to the mute me channel so that you can hear the ouput of the send. normally, it would have gone to the master instead.
you do a send by clicking on the source channel and moving the knob on one of the four send channels (or a designated send channel). the whole point of using sends is to use one effect unit on many sounds, while those sounds still have their own individual channels. this way you can use one reverb etc. for many tracks, while still processing each track individually.
to create a routing, you select the source channel and right click on the little greyed out arrow. this is just above the channel send knob, which is above the track rendering button (looks like a floppy disk). it should say "route to this track only". the output of source is now routed to the destination.
hope that clears things up. :) |
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| DJ Robby Rox |
| quote: | Originally posted by System101
hey thanks a lot for your reply. I understand what you said regarding channels getting split. I only see 2 knobs. one knob is routed to the master Fx and it is located under it which is at 72% or whatever the defeat number is. and the other one is routed to the send channel.
i'm assuming you are talking about the one that is located under the master channel. the knob that routes it channel to the master. right? |
Your welcome, but I don't think so. (I know for a fact I just don't have FL in front of me right now but will look if you need me to just let me know if you can't find it still)
You shouldn't have to touch anything on the master. The channel that you are sending is the knob you want to turn. Not the send or the master but the one being sent.
I had a bit of trouble with this myself & I forgot why, but it had something to do with the order of how you click on the channels. Like if you click on the wrong channel first, than go back to the right one, the knob won't pop up.
May sound a bit confusing. But the knob you need to adjust is actually on the the channel being sent. Click on that track and above the arrow on the bottom your talking about should be a knob. When it appears you will actually have on top for pan, than that one on the bottom for the send (& the volume too but its not a knob as you already know).
Look for it on that channel, if you don't see it I'll go into mine so I can tell you verbatim what to do. Just LMK, no big deal. |
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| DJ Robby Rox |
| quote: | Originally posted by echosystm
elec & robby rox, you have the whole thing confused.
a SEND is used for effects. ROUTING is outputting the entire output of one channel to another. download the FLP file i linked above and have a look. this is the propper way to do it.
CLAP is ROUTED to the MUTE ME channel, but has a SEND to the REVERB SEND channel.
you do a send by clicking on the source channel and moving the knob on one of the four send channels (or a designated send channel). the whole point of using sends is to use one effect unit on many sounds, while those sounds still have their own individual channels. this way you can use one reverb etc. for many tracks, while still processing each track individually.
to create a routing, you select the source channel and right click on the little greyed out arrow. it should say "route to this track only". the output of source is now routed to the destination.
hope that clears things up. :) |
Listen to him.
I do it all the time by habit (send and routing) but he can explain it better. Let us know if you still have problems. |
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