Yes, I have used Limewire unce. Mostly used DC++ and WinMX too for some time. Then they all stopped working and I haven't used them since, just can't be assed to try them out anymore :D
I use Azureus for all my torrent needs now.
SuspicionVandit
had Napster until its dying hour. Went to Kazaa, and still use DC++ and BitTorrent.
Halcyon+On+On
Is...is that a serious question?
Ted Promo
osmosis. I receive everything through a complex form of osmosis.
Fibonacci
"...but in America, I believe (for online stores at least), artists get less then 1 cent per song. So, if you really want to support your favorite artist, go to their concerts or buy their merchandise.
As for the online stores track purchases, here in America, the RIAA gets 79 cents of that 99 cents spent, the credit card companies get 5 cents per purchases, thus leaving only 15 cents for the companies. So, unless the RIAA decides to help online stores and drop licenses fees, don't expect those prices to drop.
However, this isn't to say you shouldn't buy CDs of your favorite artists. Besides being able to share those songs, some of your money is still going to the artists, even if it is a small amount."
Originally posted by Ted Promo
osmosis. I receive everything through a complex form of osmosis.
No active diffusion at all?
Darkarbiter
quote:
Originally posted by Fibonacci
"...but in America, I believe (for online stores at least), artists get less then 1 cent per song. So, if you really want to support your favorite artist, go to their concerts or buy their merchandise.
As for the online stores track purchases, here in America, the RIAA gets 79 cents of that 99 cents spent, the credit card companies get 5 cents per purchases, thus leaving only 15 cents for the companies. So, unless the RIAA decides to help online stores and drop licenses fees, don't expect those prices to drop.
However, this isn't to say you shouldn't buy CDs of your favorite artists. Besides being able to share those songs, some of your money is still going to the artists, even if it is a small amount."
Long story short: I download as much as I can (a lot more than I can afford regardless) and I buy as much as I can (allways on cd... I really like the artwork and having the actual cd).
But yeh... even if cds were free... and pretty much only promotion... then theres allways livesets which artists can make money off of. Video game industry might be a bit more screwed however.
Most cds that I buy I believe the labels gets 30% or less of the sales (and thats for their promotion... artist fee ETC!!!)
Lira
quote:
Originally posted by Fibonacci
"...but in America, I believe (for online stores at least), artists get less then 1 cent per song. So, if you really want to support your favorite artist, go to their concerts or buy their merchandise.
As for the online stores track purchases, here in America, the RIAA gets 79 cents of that 99 cents spent, the credit card companies get 5 cents per purchases, thus leaving only 15 cents for the companies. So, unless the RIAA decides to help online stores and drop licenses fees, don't expect those prices to drop.
However, this isn't to say you shouldn't buy CDs of your favorite artists. Besides being able to share those songs, some of your money is still going to the artists, even if it is a small amount."
Firstly lets assume there are only 5 labels full stop in US. I don't know what the BPI represents, so they have to speculate to accumilate. Basically, in a perfect world, the record labels do not know what will sell best, so they buy up (sign up) all sorts of bands - most are stitched up, left on the shelf and not allowed to leave the label (lookup "notice of contract") some make the label money (i.e. Britney Spears) who fund the rest of the bands who DON'T make any money.
The labels shell out thousands on a band before it makes any money. That's IF it makes any money.
However, lately the labels have run with damage limitation... "ooh we can make another band that sounds like the last hit we had, and make even more money" because thats how managers think.
It's a sick, sick world, but remember, NOFX own their own label because nobody would sign them, so they did it themselves. The Offspring originally signed to a label run out of the shed of some kid in the Netherlands.
You state you are in the UK, well... You should know that here the labels have less weight than the U.S. Given the sheer amount of dance/electronica/underground that crosses over into the mainstream, most labels are run my some bloke in a cheese shop or something. On the radio, it's usual that DJs introduce songs with band, song and label. You know "this is the latest song from Prodigy called 'Baby's got a temper' on XL records" or something"
I ran a label myself for 4 years before running up huge debts. It is not an easy life for a small label.
So if you hear a band that is worth listening to, go buy the CD. Is £10 actually a lot of money? My car uses that up driving to the shop and back. Thats like... 4 beers. Is that CD you're gonna play again and again LESS value than 4 beers? or 2 books? or a video on VHS?
Fibonacci
p2p will never "close down" because the resources are simply not available to patrol the internizzle.
In any event, I think what I meant above was that I have no problem paying royalties, but I'd like to see that my money goes to the artist. I'd sooner buy a t-shirt and download the cd from p2p than contribute to the RIAA lawsuit cruisade.
What does lars have to say about this though?
XaNaX
lol at "uncosure"
pkcRAISTLIN
quote:
Originally posted by XaNaX
lol at "uncosure"
yeah, im glad someone mentioned it!
Darkarbiter
quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
yeah, im glad someone mentioned it!