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Doing away with the lord's prayer in Legislative Assembly of Ontario (pg. 2)
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| Abercrombie |
| If the majority keeps giving in to changes that affect the few for political correctness, we'd have a watered down government, a country with a non-significant history, and no firm direction of the future. I'm an immigrant too, but my family came to Canada for what it is and was. Yes times change, but I still prefer a hearty stew rather than a creamated mash of all ingredients from a blender. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
Just because something is traditional doesn't mean it should be kept in place.
At one time, slavery was a traditional practice in the southern US states. |
So you are comparing the lord's prayer to slavery?....
rich.... very rich... |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tordan
^^ i do agree with you, jay. but as you said, the french catholic ideals were absorbed as well. there have been many people of different cultures and faiths that have helped canada flourish into what it is today. their faiths can't be represented in the legislature simply because there are too many of them. so getting rid of religion from politics altogether is a good idea. i know it's tough letting go of the founding ideals but canada has done a decent job of being progressive and this step is in keeping with that. |
At the time the french and english were (and still are i might add) the majority of the nation. As such, values reflected this reality at the time of confederation. Just as places like Afghanistan were founded under islam etc, canada was founded under the reality of it's day. That should not change. |
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| jpgrdnr |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
So you are comparing the lord's prayer to slavery?....
rich.... very rich... |
I think that's a very appropriate comparison IMHO :D |
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| PartEgurl |
| Canada is such a diverse country; therefore legislation shouldn't begin with one specific religious connotation to be respectful to everyone in this country. |
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| Yohan |
You know what's better than the Lord's Prayer to open up the Legislature?
The Oath of Allegiance
I, blah blah, do swear to be faithful and bear true allegiance to Elizabeth the Second, the Queen of Canada and all her heirs and successors according to law. (So help me God) |
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| jonnystel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
This is traditional. We founded this country on traditions that intertwined with christian ideas. Our traditions reflect our founding, not necissarly the present.
As we were a french/english society at confederation, our traditions are also english/french. Im willing to bet that if our country had the same percentage of chinese canadians back then, one of our official languages would also be chinese. You see my point?
Keep our traditions as they were. Immigrants who are offended should have known better before they got here. Canada was founded under British Protestant values and symbols which also absorbed many french catholic ideas into the fold. As such our traditions and symbols reflect this and always should. |
yeah if ppl have a problem with it.. then get the hell out lol noones telling u to be here.. why the hell do we call it a friggin holiday tree now when its FULLY a Christmas tree .. makes no sense .. if u went to india and complained that your offended with their religion u think they would give a . LOL |
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| lopi |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonnystel
if u went to india and complained that your offended with their religion u think they would give a . LOL |
That being said, I highly doubt many would agree with you if you were to try to place Canada's multiculturalism on par with India's. |
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| freemind |
From a purely utilitarian point of view, it is debatable whether the Lord's Prayer serves any purpose. A previous poster stated that its purpose was to encourage the politicians to reflect on their morals and duty to serve the people. This is specious. Morality does not require religion and I would take issue with the statement that religion makes people moral beings.
Being offended by it is equally silly though. People aren't being coerced into it. And yes, there are far more pressing issues to attend to.
Tradition arguments also don't hold much weight (logical fallacy - ad antiquitatem). And the point about Canada being founded under Christian/Catholic principles needs some hard evidence. I've seen this parroted on a number of occasions by American evangelicals with no basis in reality. |
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| soupastah |
| why is this not a poll?:whip: |
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| soupastah |
| quote: | Originally posted by lopi
That being said, I highly doubt many would agree with you if you were to try to place Canada's multiculturalism on par with India's. |
how do you figure? |
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| jonnystel |
| multiculturalism has nothing to do with a countries generalized religion and traditional beliefs... i mean... oits good that they keep letting people in ... i guess:S lol cuz it makes our country more divers which is totallly cool! but frig dont expect us to adapt to your religion and make it ours lol |
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