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what's the meaning of cheesy?
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| Dj Phillip |
i'm not an english mothertongue, so i can't realize what is the exact meaning of cheesy trance: whene a track is cheesy? how i can i recognize it?
most' of asto's track are defined cheesy, but i don't know why :haha: |
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| Darkarbiter |
| It means trance that sounds better turned up loud(often used by old people on the forums who don't like loud music). |
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| PaulSn |
| It means pop-like trance. |
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| HaeD |
| quote: | Originally posted by Darkarbiter
It means trance that sounds better turned up loud(often used by old people on the forums who don't like loud music). |
wrong, cheese is designed for low volume listener |
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| SYSTEM-J |
Here's my definition I wrote the last time this came up:
Cheesy music is simply corny: for whatever reason, it is music you are unable to take seriously. It might be because it's taking itself too seriously, or it might simply be because it has pitched-up chipmunk vocals. Cheese can be outstandingly innovative, incredibly high quality or simply stupid bollocks. Anyone who tries to define cheesy beyond that simply doesn't know the meaning of the word. You can have a cheesy smile, a cheesy advert... anything can be cheesy. It's simply something that cannot be taken as serious or straight-faced, whether or not it is aiming for that impression.
The Prodigy's "Out of Space" is probably the best cheesy dance track there is. It's 16 years old and still played out. It's a total classic, and loved throughout dance music circles. It's loved throughout all circles. I still hear it being blasted out of trendy clothes shop speakers. However, with its Jamaican vocals, comedy "boing" sounds and a sped up Ultramagnetic MC, it is undeniably cheese. You still dig it's vintage rave, "let's ing 'ave it" high-energy vibes, but you don't take it seriously.
At the other end of the scale there is Rank 1's "Airwave", such a horrifically overblown piece of schmaltz that only a small child can possibly take it seriously. It goes so far into trying to be serious that it breaks- you stop believing in whatever emotional message it's trying to pipe you.
Somewhere in between, there is the rest of cheese. DJ Alligator Project's Whistle Song is a classic example of bad cheese because it is built entirely out of stupid, immature, daft ingredients. However, the straight-faced lyrics and stern Germanic commands, it contradicts itself. It's also sold to 12 year old kids who go to youth clubs, who take it desperately seriously because they don't know any better.
Contrasting that is 2 Unlimited's "Get Ready For This", a classic example of good cheese. It's got a killer hook and the rhythmic balance is awesome, yet it's clearly poppy euro-trash and doesn't try and hide it. It's all in good fun.
That's the difference between good and bad cheese. Good cheese knows its stupid and is there to unplug your head to. Bad cheese wants to be something else, but its creator is so incompetent that they can't deliver their message. |
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| Darkarbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by HaeD
wrong, cheese is designed for low volume listener |
you thought I was serious? :wtf: just had to put in a totally nonsensical (yet could be believed by some) answer since I was the first to reply. |
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| DJLafleur |
| Cheesy=DJ Sammy |
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| PETRAN |
There is no objective interpretation of what is cheesy and what is not. Usually it refers to pseudo-emotional silly pop-edged music that doesn't take itself seriously,or to bitter-sweet music that overdones it, or just mindless party music that gets people going (according to this, 80% of minimal techno is dead cheesy), or just funny/stupid music ,or plain pop music, but these interpretations are not absolute, since the "emotional" and the "silly" and the "overdone bittersweet" and the "doesn't take itself serious" and the "funny/stupid" are open to subjective interpretation.
IMO, "cheesy" can just be a "ghost interpretation" resulting from affective impressions, rather then clear-cut cognitive establishments that reflect the musical structure of a musical piece. Look at Ian Van Dahl's "Castles in the Sky". Everyone would agree that it is a cheesy tune (probably from the lyrics). If one looks at the structure of the tune, one would notice that it doesn't differ from other north-european instrumental epic-trance tracks of the era, neither is less complex by hallmark trance tunes of the 90s. As a result, the inclusion of love-lyrics in a track, is enough in itself for something to be labelled as "cheesy". In a mater of fact, just a single melody can lead to such conclusions, despite that fact that the current melody is no less complex/radically different from other melodies deriving fron musical pieces that belong to the same genre. It is just the "feeling" that it evokes. As a result the term "cheesy" is very vague, and i have seen it used for (IMO) streight dead-serious emotional music.
To someone who is dead inside and hence has a high emotional threshold (it takes a lot of affective information in order to feel something), "cheesy" can be everything. On the contrary, for someone who has a low emotional threshold (he/she can feel something of substancive intensity with the least emotional infrormation possible) nothing can be "cheesy". As always, truth is somewhere found in the middle, and IMO, you simply canno't be told what is cheesy and what is not, since there is no research to statistically standardise the average cheesyness of the population. I guess that extensive listening of different genres and musical experience may help one establish what is cheesy and what is not but even then, one canno't conclude on the absolute truth of "cheesyness", since it was only his/her first person thinking that ended-up in the (personal) conclusion. I suggest you to listen to what you like and don't care for such "cheesy" questions!
p.s. i don't have a cor version of this! |
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| wilhelm_t |
| Not washing your knob in some considerable time? |
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| Gen3r4l1ty |
| quote: | Originally posted by wilhelm_t
Not washing your knob in some considerable time? |
Fromunda Cheese? |
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| Trance-MB |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Phillip
the exact meaning of cheesy trance |
Unknown, doesn't exist??? |
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