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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
Krypton, you have got to be ting me.
I thought we were making ground for a second there man... :( |
What do you mean? "Sometimes I think", not "I believe".
Some people believe that in ancient times, aliens were always communicating with humans. I am just theorizing, that if humans and aliens had been communicating in ancient times, could these aliens be interpreted as angels? Some say the Egyptian pyramids could only have been built with outside help. Not saying they were, but it's just my imagination on fire dude...RELAX...:p |
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| Renegade |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
What do you mean? "Sometimes I think", not "I believe". |
Okay, let's get ourselves on the same page then: do you actually believe that there is a "UFO/extraterrestrial" basis for the events in the Bible, or are you just stroking my skeptical bone for the fun of it? 
| quote: | | Some people believe that in ancient times, aliens were always communicating with humans. |
"Some people"? Such as...?
| quote: | | I am just theorizing, that if humans and aliens had been communicating in ancient times, could these aliens be interpreted as angels? |
Perhaps, but one would have to ask:
1) Why the aliens / angels didn't reveal anything to us humans that wasn't later discovered via a decidedly arduous process of natural, empirical inquiry;
2) Why they chose to cease communicating with us as soon as we reached the age of the digicam and the voice recorder?
| quote: | | Some say the Egyptian pyramids could only have been built with outside help. |
"Some" may have said that, but "some" are also complete idiots - how do you reconcile that?
Quick youtube search:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIjN5X_JXhI
As usual, the truth is far more interesting than the fantasy...
| quote: | | Not saying they were, but it's just my imagination on fire dude...RELAX...:p |
Nothing wrong with having an imagination, just make sure that the bastard knows its place. Imagination should be guided by perception, not the other way around. |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
Okay, let's get ourselves on the same page then: do you actually believe that there is a "UFO/extraterrestrial" basis for the events in the Bible, or are you just stroking my skeptical bone for the fun of it? |
No, it's something I think about. How can I possibly state such a hypothesis as fact?
| quote: | | "Some people"? Such as...? |
Uh, I'm sure you've heard of these alien theories. Like did the druids get help with stonehenge? Were the Atacama desert geoglyphs messages to skybourne travelers? Dude, there are shows on the discovery/history channel about this kind of stuff all the time...:p
| quote: | Perhaps, but one would have to ask:
1) Why the aliens / angels didn't reveal anything to us humans that wasn't later discovered via a decidedly arduous process of natural, empirical inquiry;
2) Why they chose to cease communicating with us as soon as we reached the age of the digicam and the voice recorder? |
Those are valid questions, but I'm just hypothesizing, so don't take me as stating for fact my alien hypothesis, because I can't even believe it as truth myself.
| quote: | | Nothing wrong with having an imagination, just make sure that the bastard knows its place. Imagination should be guided by perception, not the other way around. |
I just think its interesting at how many figures in the bible were simply taken up into heaven. Reminds me of an alien abduction. Not saying it is, but there is a strange similarity I see... |
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| LazFX |
| Chariots of the Gods.... good reading |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by LazFX
Chariots of the Gods.... good reading |
Right. Merkabah is not to be taken literally (just like the rest of the bible, you'll never get anywhere at face value and without an understanding of the mysteries the authors and intended audience were versed in) the chariot and the angels are metaphors for the way God reveals himself.
All these events in the Bible that people look at and point to as possible UFO really didn't happen. The writers are speaking in very deep metaphors, the events are not meant to be taken literally. |
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| Krypton |
This is probably one of the strangest encounters recorded in the Bible between man and alien beings (whatever they are)....
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Ezekiel 1:4-28
4 I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north—an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal, 5 and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was that of a man, 6 but each of them had four faces and four wings. 7 Their legs were straight; their feet were like those of a calf and gleamed like burnished bronze. 8 Under their wings on their four sides they had the hands of a man. All four of them had faces and wings, 9 and their wings touched one another. Each one went straight ahead; they did not turn as they moved.
10 Their faces looked like this: Each of the four had the face of a man, and on the right side each had the face of a lion, and on the left the face of an ox; each also had the face of an eagle. 11 Such were their faces. Their wings were spread out upward; each had two wings, one touching the wing of another creature on either side, and two wings covering its body. 12 Each one went straight ahead. Wherever the spirit would go, they would go, without turning as they went. 13 The appearance of the living creatures was like burning coals of fire or like torches. Fire moved back and forth among the creatures; it was bright, and lightning flashed out of it. 14 The creatures sped back and forth like flashes of lightning.
15 As I looked at the living creatures, I saw a wheel on the ground beside each creature with its four faces. 16 This was the appearance and structure of the wheels: They sparkled like chrysolite, and all four looked alike. Each appeared to be made like a wheel intersecting a wheel. 17 As they moved, they would go in any one of the four directions the creatures faced; the wheels did not turn about [d] as the creatures went. 18 Their rims were high and awesome, and all four rims were full of eyes all around. <----This is soooo UFO'ish...scary...:nervous:
19 When the living creatures moved, the wheels beside them moved; and when the living creatures rose from the ground, the wheels also rose. 20 Wherever the spirit would go, they would go, and the wheels would rise along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. 21 When the creatures moved, they also moved; when the creatures stood still, they also stood still; and when the creatures rose from the ground, the wheels rose along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.
22 Spread out above the heads of the living creatures was what looked like an expanse, sparkling like ice, and awesome. 23 Under the expanse their wings were stretched out one toward the other, and each had two wings covering its body. 24 When the creatures moved, I heard the sound of their wings, like the roar of rushing waters, like the voice of the Almighty, [e] like the tumult of an army. When they stood still, they lowered their wings.
25 Then there came a voice from above the expanse over their heads as they stood with lowered wings. 26 Above the expanse over their heads was what looked like a throne of sapphire, [f] and high above on the throne was a figure like that of a man. 27 I saw that from what appeared to be his waist up he looked like glowing metal, as if full of fire, and that from there down he looked like fire; and brilliant light surrounded him. 28 Like the appearance of a rainbow in the clouds on a rainy day, so was the radiance around him.
This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. When I saw it, I fell facedown, and I heard the voice of one speaking. |
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| {b.s.e.} |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
but the chances that they know we're here plus the chances they have the technology to get here are so small its hardly worth thinking about.
and LOL at using something like the bible as evidence for ET! |
I didn't realise you were also a finite wiz.
I don't recall referencing the Bible, whatsoever? |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
I didn't realise you were also a finite wiz. |
sorry?
| quote: | Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
I don't recall referencing the Bible, whatsoever? |
new sentence, new paragraph, new topic. perhaps directed to krypton and not you? ;) i mean come on, youre the big conspiracy theorist concerning christianty, why on earth would i direct a comment like that to you? |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
No, it's something I think about. How can I possibly state such a hypothesis as fact? |
well, to be fair that's not what renegade asked ;) he asked if you believe the hypothesis, which is no different to asking someone if they believe in god (a question you have answered on multiple occasions).
you can't bring the topic up and then skate around it, do you believe in these ideas you are raising or not? :p |
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| {b.s.e.} |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
sorry?
new sentence, new paragraph, new topic. perhaps directed to krypton and not you? ;) i mean come on, youre the big conspiracy theorist concerning christianty, why on earth would i direct a comment like that to you? |
eheh, "paragraph", that's stretching it a bit, innit? :wtf:
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
but the chances that they know we're here plus the chances they have the technology to get here are so small its hardly worth thinking about.
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sounds like finite math to me. :p |
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| LazFX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
This is probably one of the strangest encounters recorded in the Bible between man and alien beings (whatever they are)....
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Ezekiel 1:4-28
4 I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north—an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal, 5 and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was that of a man, 6 but each of them had four faces and four wings. 7 Their legs were straight; their feet were like those of a calf and gleamed like burnished bronze. 8 Under their wings on their four sides they had the hands of a man. All four of them had faces and wings, 9 and their wings touched one another. Each one went straight ahead; they did not turn as they moved.
10 Their faces looked like this: Each of the four had the face of a man, and on the right side each had the face of a lion, and on the left the face of an ox; each also had the face of an eagle. 11 Such were their faces. Their wings were spread out upward; each had two wings, one touching the wing of another creature on either side, and two wings covering its body. 12 Each one went straight ahead. Wherever the spirit would go, they would go, without turning as they went. 13 The appearance of the living creatures was like burning coals of fire or like torches. Fire moved back and forth among the creatures; it was bright, and lightning flashed out of it. 14 The creatures sped back and forth like flashes of lightning.
15 As I looked at the living creatures, I saw a wheel on the ground beside each creature with its four faces. 16 This was the appearance and structure of the wheels: They sparkled like chrysolite, and all four looked alike. Each appeared to be made like a wheel intersecting a wheel. 17 As they moved, they would go in any one of the four directions the creatures faced; the wheels did not turn about [d] as the creatures went. 18 Their rims were high and awesome, and all four rims were full of eyes all around. <----This is soooo UFO'ish...scary...:nervous:
19 When the living creatures moved, the wheels beside them moved; and when the living creatures rose from the ground, the wheels also rose. 20 Wherever the spirit would go, they would go, and the wheels would rise along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. 21 When the creatures moved, they also moved; when the creatures stood still, they also stood still; and when the creatures rose from the ground, the wheels rose along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.
22 Spread out above the heads of the living creatures was what looked like an expanse, sparkling like ice, and awesome. 23 Under the expanse their wings were stretched out one toward the other, and each had two wings covering its body. 24 When the creatures moved, I heard the sound of their wings, like the roar of rushing waters, like the voice of the Almighty, [e] like the tumult of an army. When they stood still, they lowered their wings.
25 Then there came a voice from above the expanse over their heads as they stood with lowered wings. 26 Above the expanse over their heads was what looked like a throne of sapphire, [f] and high above on the throne was a figure like that of a man. 27 I saw that from what appeared to be his waist up he looked like glowing metal, as if full of fire, and that from there down he looked like fire; and brilliant light surrounded him. 28 Like the appearance of a rainbow in the clouds on a rainy day, so was the radiance around him.
This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. When I saw it, I fell facedown, and I heard the voice of one speaking. |
Gilgamesh would like to have a word with you... |
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