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Myanmar disaster (pg. 5)
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| NeoPhono |
So just to summarize things....
1. If a government or society enacts a law and sets consequences, there should be no outrage when the law is broken and the consequences are handed-down? So if a government says we'll kill anyone we think might be against us, including foreign photographers, and then does so, we should simply say "it's the law" and look the other way? If a country commits crimes against humanity fitting within their laws, should we also simply pay no attention?
2. If a person commits a crime and does not admit to it, they should not go to prison but either be released back into the population, exiled (Where, exactly? Isn't that what prison is...exile from society?) or killed. If a person commits a crime and admits to it, the exact same thing would happen. Basically the entire justice system boils down to whether someone wants to admit to a crime or not. Why would anyone ever admit to anything? |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
I would like to officially go on record as blaming both the West and climate change for the actions of the Myanmar junta in both the seizure of UN aid and their refusal to distribute it to the victims of this tragedy. The thousands of unnecessary deaths that will surely follow, due not to aid being available, but to the unwillingness of the Myanmar government to accept and allow its distribution is surely the direct fault of Western foreign policy and global warming.
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Junta is a repressive regime, but the horrors of this natural disaster were strongly influenced by climate change. Such a powerful storm that "left marks on people's faces", I mean that says it all. Junta just did their expectable and despicable response to this disaster. They dont care if the whole country is ruined as long as they are in power. But the intensity of the storm is factored mainly from the continuing destruction of the biosphere. Where do you think all that extra water is coming from to add to the storm intensity? (I am not talking about CO2 levels, btw)
Glaciers and ice is melting at greater rate than replenishing, more freshwater is released into the water cycle and that increases the intensity of the storms. And due to the lack of forests and other natural barriers to help stabilize the environment (many acres of rainforest are cut down every hour), when storms unleash they literally have very few barriers - almost like after stripping a forest and the stormwater just obliterates the weakened terrain. Its a common story in certain regions of Amazon, sub-Saharan Africa, China, Asia.
In any case, the massive population density in such regions (formerly rainforests) increases the mortality rate in the case of natural disasters.
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| NeoPhono |
| So I guess what I'm getting is that for you -- you think it's ok to stand up for what you believe in, unless standing up for yourself is against the law and that anarchy and vigilantism is the best system of justice? |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by ********
First off, I beleive in outright freedom of practice on basis of the fundamentals of human decency - do no harm and help improve the world by improving the lives of others when you can - help foster the world to be more sustainable and beautiful to live with.
As for my view of fundamental justice I am very black and white. |
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| DJ Shibby |
| I remember CNN wouldn't even take a moment to even mention that so many people died (100,000?) until many days after the event, yet a tornado blowing over a car in Alabama was "Breaking News" all morning... |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Shibby
I remember CNN wouldn't even take a moment to even mention that so many people died (100,000?) until many days after the event, yet a tornado blowing over a car in Alabama was "Breaking News" all morning... |
There is no oil or Al Qaeda in Burma. Hollywood hasnt made any recent stops there either. And Osama Bin Laden is many miles away. Besides, many Americans before this disaster probably didnt even know that Myanmar existed in the first place. |
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| NeoPhono |
| It may be a tad bit unrealistic to expect everyone to know everything going on to everyone everywhere all the time. People usually have a hard enough time keeping up with what's going on immediately around them. |
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| tathi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
There is no oil or Al Qaeda in Burma. Hollywood hasnt made any recent stops there either. And Osama Bin Laden is many miles away. Besides, many Americans before this disaster probably didnt even know that Myanmar existed in the first place. |
Rambo IV? |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
It may be a tad bit unrealistic to expect everyone to know everything going on to everyone everywhere all the time. People usually have a hard enough time keeping up with what's going on immediately around them. |
Yes, watching countless hours of TV is very time consuming. Its more immediate and the viewers have a hard time keeping up with the new seasons and sequels of shows and movies as it is already. That leaves no time for the books either! Dam busy work schedules! :(
| quote: | Originally posted by tathi
Rambo IV? |
Never seen any of the Rambo movies ... but I doubt that th scenes were filmed out there. Besides, did they call it the old Burma or the new superstylin' Myanmar?
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| DJ Shibby |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
It may be a tad bit unrealistic to expect everyone to know everything going on to everyone everywhere all the time. People usually have a hard enough time keeping up with what's going on immediately around them. |
truth |
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| tathi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
Yes, watching countless hours of TV is very time consuming. Its more immediate and the viewers have a hard time keeping up with the new seasons and sequels of shows and movies as it is already. That leaves no time for the books either! Dam busy work schedules! :(
Never seen any of the Rambo movies ... but I doubt that th scenes were filmed out there. Besides, did they call it the old Burma or the new superstylin' Myanmar?
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ive never seen any of the rambo films either but i read it was based in burma and filmed in thailand |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by tathi
ive never seen any of the rambo films either but i read it was based in burma and filmed in thailand |
tathi just tends to know a lot of things. like what love from another man feels like. |
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