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Air Canada imposes new fuel surcharge on Canada flights (pg. 2)
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| DigiNut |
Oh please. I'd gladly drive two hours to save $250. Tons of people do. The inconvenience of a border crossing and an "unfamiliar place" is nothing compared to the inconvenience that the airlines already put you through every time you fly.
And I don't understand the comment about taking two planes off the runway either. Doesn't that imply that they're doing their job, taking planes out of service that aren't fit to fly? How many other airlines don't take planes out of service when they should be? |
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| Jayx1 |
Digi,
he obviously is saying it for job security of which i dont blame him..
But people are speaking with their wallets and probably half the parking lots in the buffalo airport are ontario plates |
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| failsafe |
Digi, I wasn't talking about fixing broken planes. I'm talking about landing a plane in conditions too poor to get the plane stopped on the runway.
This isn't ancient history here, this is 2008, which to me is relevant. You can't keep sliding planes off the runway without eventually having things go poorly.
I'm not saying or trying to imply that Air Canada is perfect, however the time they did something like this was a very long time ago. Air Canada has taken steps to ensure that it would never happen again. Last year they were rated the worlds safest airline, which is quite the achievement.
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| Special K |
booked a one way ticket to switzerland in june yesterday for $225 (taxes in)
:eek: :D |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by failsafe
Digi, I wasn't talking about fixing broken planes. I'm talking about landing a plane in conditions too poor to get the plane stopped on the runway.
This isn't ancient history here, this is 2008, which to me is relevant. You can't keep sliding planes off the runway without eventually having things go poorly. |
If you're talking about when it skidded on the ice in the middle of winter, I'm only aware of one reported case of this and it seems to me that this would be the fault of the airport.
Even if Westjet were entirely to blame, I'm not convinced that the recency of the incident necessarily makes it more relevant. A high frequency of such incidents would be alarming, but a minor hiccup for Westjet in 2008 doesn't scare me any more than Flight 646 back in 1997. |
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| SniFFleS |
| It's an airline, they don't make any profit. Give them a break. |
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| patpicos |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Also toronto to florida with air canada 400-500 bucks incl everything and 25% aeroplan miles.
I priced out a similar flight with united from buffalo for $178 all inc with 100% aeroplan (star alliance) miles.
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when i flew from buffalo to Orlando,FL, it cost my work $220 back n forth using westjet, thats pretty good. That price barely gets me to MTL from TO one way ! |
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| Skipper |
Westjet and Porter have responded by saying a surcharge is something they are considering as well.
Unfortunately, gas prices are a huge portion of an airline's variable costs and it makes sense that they be passed on to the consumer. Pretty soon you're going to see the same happening with food/prepared meals. However, the airlines have already pissed so many people off up to this point, that it was inevitable that this charge would be poorly received, no matter how much it makes sense. Air travel is prohibitively expensive for many people as it is, even when the ticket itself costs next to nothing.
It's too bad the charge couldn't increase or decrease in proportion with oil prices, then it might be under less criticism (though the airline's pricing system is probably not sophisticated to do that real time.) |
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| failsafe |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
If you're talking about when it skidded on the ice in the middle of winter, I'm only aware of one reported case of this and it seems to me that this would be the fault of the airport.
Even if Westjet were entirely to blame, I'm not convinced that the recency of the incident necessarily makes it more relevant. A high frequency of such incidents would be alarming, but a minor hiccup for Westjet in 2008 doesn't scare me any more than Flight 646 back in 1997. |
It's not the airports fault, they issue runway condition reports telling you the friction index. The pilots have to make calculations to determine if there is enough friction to keep the airplane on the runway. Westjet is becoming infamous for disregarding the friction index and going in anyway. The Ottawa accident was the perfect case, it was freezing rain at the time, and you're gonna blame the airport?
Give your head a shake man.
Just because you're only aware of the ottawa incident doesn't mean they didn't go off in thunder bay earlier in the year. So it's not only recent, but frequent also. The thunder bay incident was hardly reported, and the reports I did read were entirely inaccurate calling it a taxi way slide off. The pictures I saw definitely were off a runway. The lights are a different colour, so it was pretty obvious.
Anyway, if you have any real questions I'd be more than willing to help you with them. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by devnull
when i flew from buffalo to Orlando,FL, it cost my work $220 back n forth using westjet, thats pretty good. That price barely gets me to MTL from TO one way ! |
inc taxes?? with canadian taxes and fees the original flight must have been $50 round trip! :eyes: |
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| soupastah |
| quote: | Originally posted by Special K
booked a one way ticket to switzerland in june yesterday for $225 (taxes in)
:eek: :D |
how, with who? i spent 1400 round trip for fck sakes! |
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| Yohan |
| West Jet has also added this fuel surplus charge, from 25 to 40 dollars pending on flight. |
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