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General Compression Question (pg. 2)
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| theartfulducker |
| quote: | | Compressors do the exact opposite of this, by definition. |
So if i use a compressor to accentuate the the intial transient of a kick drum sample to makle it sound more punchy has that given more dynamics or taken them away? |
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| Dj Nacht |
| quote: | Originally posted by theartfulducker
So if i use a compressor to accentuate the the intial transient of a kick drum sample to makle it sound more punchy has that given more dynamics or taken them away? |
I may be wrong here but isnt the transient of a kick drum the clicking noise? How does accentuating the click give more punch? What is concidered punch? |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by theartfulducker
So if i use a compressor to accentuate the the intial transient of a kick drum sample to makle it sound more punchy has that given more dynamics or taken them away? |
How are you going to "accentuate the initial transient of a kick drum sample" by using compression? |
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| theartfulducker |
| quote: | | How are you going to "accentuate the initial transient of a kick drum sample" by using compression? |
By setting the attack so that it compresses after the trasient peaks... |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| And why would you want to accentuate the transient anyway? The power of a kick doesn't rest in having a transient that's a lot bigger than the rest of the kick... |
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| theartfulducker |
| Using a compressor to make a drum more punchy is one of the most basic things ever. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by theartfulducker
Using a compressor to make a drum more punchy is one of the most basic things ever. |
"Punchy" and "having a big transient" are not the same thing. |
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| Dj Nacht |
| Making the drum punchy is usually by REDUCING the dynamic range and upping the output gain. Smash the transient and reduce the dynamic range but bring the level up much more. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
Here's an example. The first kick is just left as I found it. On the second one I applied a volume envelope so that the initial transient is much louder than the rest of the kick:
Now listen to the two kicks, both normalized to 0dB:
Unedited kick
Kick with big transient
In the second kick, the transient is a lot louder than the rest of the kick -- it has a much sharper, quicker drop in volume than the first kick does. But that doesn't make it "punchier." I think the second one with the "accentuated transient" sounds a lot weaker than the unmodified one. |
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| Eldritch |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Here's an example. The first kick is just left as I found it. On the second one I applied a volume envelope so that the initial transient is much louder than the rest of the kick:
Now listen to the two kicks, both normalized to 0dB:
Unedited kick
Kick with big transient
In the second kick, the transient is a lot louder than the rest of the kick -- it has a much sharper, quicker drop in volume than the first kick does. But that doesn't make it "punchier." I think the second one with the "accentuated transient" sounds a lot weaker than the unmodified one. |
A volume envelope does not equal a compressor. I don't know what the hell you're smoking.
A punchy kick has a louder transient. It doesn't mean it will sound more powerful. But it will cut through a mix easier. |
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| Dj Nacht |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eldritch
A volume envelope does not equal a compressor. I don't know what the hell you're smoking.
A punchy kick has a louder transient. It doesn't mean it will sound more powerful. But it will cut through a mix easier. |
Hes just trying to show the difference between a compressed kick and a very dynamic kick! |
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| theartfulducker |
But youve just way overcompressed that sample. Of course it will sound weaker.
Maybe smakier is more the word i would have used.
Thats more what i mean ^^^^ Ther top kick is the compressed one ... |
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