I actually think a far better discussion (and I'm surprised how it hasn't even come up here) would be around how Scott McClellan threw the entire Bush administration under the bus and more recently Ricardo Sanchez:
Or has what has been blatantly obvious to most since 2004 become accepted by the 23%rs 4 years after the fact?
/cue arguments of armchair generals ... phony soldiers ... "bitter/disgruntled" employees or whatever the apologist cue cards call for. I can't keep up with it nowadays
Q5echo
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Originally posted by occrider
I actually think a far better discussion (and I'm surprised how it hasn't even come up here) would be around how Scott McClellan threw the entire Bush administration under the bus and more recently Ricardo Sanchez:
thread it. just realize one's trying to sell a book who was never in the know, the other's trying to be the President of the United States who was never in the know.
this can never be shown enough to willfully ignorant
ps occ. realize something else. you were dead wrong about the surge. thats what you get when you fall for people like Scott McClellan. now go hop a plane
Incharge1976
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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
I have no earthly idea what you're on about here. Wright burned Obama badly, Obama noted that he may not have known Wright as well as he thought, and that he didn't agree with much of the comments trotted out in public. But Obama is supposed to be like Tammy Wynette and stand by his man while the right wing swift boats him? I thought that's what you hate Hillary Clinton for.
This whole discussion makes the right look desperate for something to scandalize.
Obama's "mentor" is a racist who hates white America and is for black power. Obama doesn't put his hand over his heart when the pledge is read. Obama will not wear anything with America on it.
Lebezniatnikov, you must think that people are a little slow up top to honestly ask me to believe that Obama didn't know his "MENTOR" well. Most African-American churches are about politics as much as GOD.
Sure, you can make up excuses for him but I see right through it.
LazFX
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Originally posted by Incharge1976
Obama's "mentor" is a racist who hate white America and is for black power. Obama doesn't put his hand over his hard when the pledge is read. Obama will not wear anything with America on it.
Lebezniatnikov, you must think that people are a little slow up top to honestly ask me to believe that Obama didn't know his "MENTOR" well. Most African-American churches are about politics as much as GOD.
Sure, you can make up excuses for him but I see right through it.
do I hear banjos???
Incharge1976
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Originally posted by LazFX
do I hear banjos???
yes....but it's playing the national anthem and Obama is facing Cuba.
Arbiter
Well, that's where it belongs, isn't it? Well, I suppose it might be less than ideal if it's not a flaming bus.
Q5echo
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Originally posted by Incharge1976
yes....but it's playing the national anthem and Obama is facing Cuba.
i try hard not to be like Josh4 and swing from other dude's sack but that was a good one.:haha:
Lebezniatnikov
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Originally posted by Incharge1976
Obama's "mentor" is a racist who hates white America and is for black power. Obama doesn't put his hand over his heart when the pledge is read. Obama will not wear anything with America on it.
You're an idiot who doesn't have the foggiest idea what you're talking about. Three lies in your first post on TA. Congratulations.
Lebezniatnikov
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Anti-Semite Hagee Says Antichrist Is a Gay Jew (And Hitler was a Jew Too)
By M.J. Rosenberg - June 2, 2008, 1:21PM
Thank you, Max Blumenthal, for working the Hagee beat so the rest of us don't have to. So the guy who was AIPAC's keynoter last year and whose Christians United For Israel is hosting Joe Lieberman this year believes that the Anti-Christ is a Jewish gay guy. (Uh oh, I may know him).
This is crazy stuff but is also pure unadulterated old-fashioned anti-Semitism.
You remember anti-Semitism. It is NOT about criticizing Israel, talking about neoconservatives or disliking Adam Sandler.
It is believing that Jews are evil people who are responsible for most of the bad things going on in the world. Its roots lie not in Islam (which both came along and picked up anti-Semitism later) but in Christianity, going as far back as Paul (or Saul, as we not so fondly remember him).
In any case, if you think old-fashioned Jew-hatred is dead, get a whiff of this guy, Hagee.
McCain did good by breaking with him. But what about Joe Lieberman?
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
You're an idiot who doesn't have the foggiest idea what you're talking about. Three lies in your first post on TA. Congratulations.
fortunately I have proof. I meant national anthem by the way, not pledge. I read your garbage thread about McCain and I find it funny that you can't post Obama's gaffes. You want to vote in a man who doesn't know how many states are in America, what towns he is speaking in, throws his family members under the bus in front of the entire country and spent 20 years in a church that preaches "white hate", all led by his "mentor". Obama CONDEMNED Imus for his racial remarks on national TV and said he would not be working for him but supported his WHITE HATING reverend. Go try you BS on someone else.
National Anthem Rules - During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. -- United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171
Obviously the pin isn't the only thing he doesn't want to do.
Zild
The only thing that can stop Obama from winning now is going back and undoing eight years of Dubya. Get started on that time machine. I'll help you with the mathematics.
Incharge1976
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Originally posted by Zild
The only thing that can stop Obama from winning now is going back and undoing eight years of Dubya. Get started on that time machine. I'll help you with the mathematics.
If I could go back 8 years, I would probably be living in Twilo and would have no time for politics.
