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Capturing that Trance feel (pg. 2)
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DavidArmant
quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Do you want the original trance from the early 1990s or the 1999 - 2001 style of epic trance?

Early '90s trance: anywhere from 125 - 150 BPM; lots of acid (303) and high-resonance squelchy noises; short breakdowns (usually thirty seconds to a minute) or no breakdowns at all; you can try throwing in some spoken word samples or "ethnic" sounding vocals; percussion will mostly be relatively simple 909 or 808 style drums and hits plus some tribal-sounding drum and perc samples; lots of weird and spacey noises and pads; most common effects are probably delay and reverb; melodies are mostly very short, one to four bars generally.

Late '90s trance: usually around 135 - 145 BPM; lots of supersaw pads and saw leads; longer breakdowns (usually from two to three minutes) where the track pretty much stops completely; if you use vocals, they should be light and breathy and have some simple lyrics with basic pop themes of love, loss, and heartache; breakdown includes a low-pass filtered supersaw with gradually increasing cutoff frequency and probably a snare roll; percussion will be a big thumping kick with a very loud clap or snare and some hats with a delay on them; noise washes; melodic elements will often have a ton of delay and reverb; melodies are longer, stretching out sometimes to four, sixteen, or even thirty-two bars.

As a general guide that's about it, I think.
You reminded me of two DJ Micro mixes..
Tech Mix Version 2.0
Tech Mix 2000

...I remember Yukoozu - Drugs is on one of those mixes.
Ray_Chappell
Awhile back I was able to see a fully produced song track by track - I think it was something from Gabriel and Dresden. What helped was being able to isolate the sounds on solo and hear the layers working together. What may be helpful is getting your hands on some current remix packages that have samples and midi files to drop into your sequencer and really see/hear how it is working together. The other thing that did for me was be able to isolate different sounds in my head when I'm listening to a track.

Check out for some remix packs and see if that helps develop your own style at all.
JustinMead
quote:
Originally posted by Eldritch
- Learn how to harmonize and use counter melodies.


Can you explain a bit more on this? I keep hearing this one over and over, and I don't exactly know the meaning :(

Justin
daeus
quote:
Originally posted by JustinMead
Can you explain a bit more on this? I keep hearing this one over and over, and I don't exactly know the meaning :(

Justin


I think they are talking about complimentng one melody with another melody playing at the same time possibly in another octive or two or in slightly higher/lower scale.

Generally just have several things going on at the same time to make it sound abit busier and more alive - trance style.

oh, also add whale and sea noises for an epic feel, maybe some seagulls.
Eldritch
quote:
Originally posted by JustinMead
Can you explain a bit more on this? I keep hearing this one over and over, and I don't exactly know the meaning :(

Justin


Google is your friend. :)
I learned how to harmonize on my own. I still don't know alot of music theory, but I do know it helps to learn it if harmonizing doesn't come naturally.
davidbuhau
GET A BOOK OF CHORDS AND SCALES

you can get one at barnes and noble for like 7 bucks!

david
Warble
Aware of chords and scales used to play bass, pretty sure it translates.

Think im on more point, thx for replies.

Gotta an intro up with vocals over it, def has trance vibe.
Think im getting there finillay lawl.
davidbuhau
oh no... vocals...

i remember when ascension -- someone came out...

that was an amazing track, but in my opinion it was the beginning of the end (castles i the sky *puke*)

david
Warble
It gets worse, i'm doing the vocals myself :happy2:

Getting alot better with Auto tune n malendone(think thats what its called, using it at a bru's so not sure exact spelling)

Will be able to turn anyone into a superstar vocalist soon!
davidbuhau
we drift deeeeeeeeeeeeeeper... life goes on (puke)

david

Eldritch
quote:
Originally posted by davidbuhau
we drift deeeeeeeeeeeeeeper... life goes on (puke)

david

What?! I think "As The Rush Comes" is awesome. Especially the Above & Beyond mix.
Aesthetic
yeah as the rush comes is up there

best vocal song ever - cass n slide "perception" :D
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