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stabs.... timing & tips
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| knight54 |
ok guys.. any tips on the timing of stabs in tech house /minimal tunes..?
you know the thing.. tune meandering along with a nice bass/perc patterns and then all of a sudden a quick stab, more bass and then a futher stab variation. keeping the tune moving
question is... where do they appear timingwise in the bar?, are they on or off beat.... or does it depend on the groove?
any help would be appreciated
I use FL6 btw |
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| Acton |
they can "appear" anywhere you want them to be, just try stuff out untill you find something you like!
with reference to the "stabs" of bass, percs, samples etc, use things like a fast attack, editing the start point of samples, using gate effects or chopper effects (sequenced gate effects) synced to the tracks tempo, this turns the signal on and off rapidly, giving the part a much tighter feel |
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| derail |
Listen to your favourite tech house/ minimal songs and work out where you prefer them. Not every song has them in the same place.
Or you can ask us where you should put them, then which chords you should use, then which vst/ preset, then how you should eq it and what effects to add to it.
Sorry, sorry, that was a bit over the top...but really, it's your music, take full responsibility for how you want it to sound. You know your tastes better than anyone else. |
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| knight54 |
thanks guys some good suggestions.
in terms of the timing it would be nice for someone to say... I did this and it sound good, or avoid x.
anyway cheers |
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| cl0ckw3rk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Acton
with reference to the "stabs" of bass, percs, samples etc, use things like a fast attack, editing the start point of samples, using gate effects or chopper effects (sequenced gate effects) synced to the tracks tempo, this turns the signal on and off rapidly, giving the part a much tighter feel |
This is worth experimenting with I think.
As far as bar placement...How often do you want to repeat the sound? Would it be in every bar, or like every 4? |
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| knight54 |
| quote: | Originally posted by cl0ckw3rk
This is worth experimenting with I think.
As far as bar placement...How often do you want to repeat the sound? Would it be in every bar, or like every 4? |
erm, say every 8 bars |
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| Kevy Kev |
| Listen to a couple of tracks that have the stab that you like and count when they bring them in to get an idea. |
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| Eldritch |
They're usually on the off-beat and the following third 16th note. Or the last 16th note of the following beat.
Apply some swing/shuffle for an interesting rythmic effect. |
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| echosystm |
| quote: | Originally posted by knight54
or does it depend on the groove? |
yes, imo.
it depends entirely on the bassline and percussions. |
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| knight54 |
cheers guys
thanks |
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| DigiNut |
They can appear anywhere.
The rhythm is usually either fast (16th notes) or syncopated. I don't think I hear many tracks with straight eighth-note or quarter-note stabs.
The other pattern you'll hear frequently is an odd number of quick stabs followed by an even number of rests, repeating. Obviously this is just another kind of syncopation but it tends to be more interesting.
And yes, the most common pattern is a stab on every fourth 16th-note, starting with the on-beat (that's one stab, two rests). |
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| knight54 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
They can appear anywhere.
The rhythm is usually either fast (16th notes) or syncopated. I don't think I hear many tracks with straight eighth-note or quarter-note stabs.
The other pattern you'll hear frequently is an odd number of quick stabs followed by an even number of rests, repeating. Obviously this is just another kind of syncopation but it tends to be more interesting.
And yes, the most common pattern is a stab on every fourth 16th-note, starting with the on-beat (that's one stab, two rests). |
erm, not sure I totally understand, would you be good enough to explain with x's & - (ie kick, rest etc) |
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