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Is America's suburban dream collapsing into a nightmare? (pg. 2)
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
I never thought anything about the US could be exotic to a foreigner any more but... well, I was wrong. Isn't the traffic chaotic during the rush hour? Doesn't it take way too long to go anywhere? |
yes and yes. such a wasteful use of land. LA is probably the worst example of suburbanization. The term city is used very loosely when referring to LA, it actually a long string of suburbs with the quintesential highrise city center that is empty after 5pm. Traffic in LA is bad all the time. I remember spending 4 hours driving about 40 miles from just south of LA to the mountains north of LA. I will never do it again. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
yes and yes. such a wasteful use of land. LA is probably the worst example of suburbanization. The term city is used very loosely when referring to LA, it actually a long string of suburbs with the quintesential highrise city center that is empty after 5pm. Traffic in LA is bad all the time. I remember spending 4 hours driving about 40 miles from just south of LA to the mountains north of LA. I will never do it again. |
I had always taken for granted that, whenever there is a residential area, there are also small shops nearby.
Come to think of it, though, traffic is a common problem in most big cities, including mine, regardless of the urban sprawl.
I live in a city where I can get all I need within walking distance, but the traffic is awful during the rush hour. I can get home on foot faster than if I tried to take the same route by car.
But, still, I wonder whether it is still as bad as in a place where there is no choice other than driving :P |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by josh4
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good vids. it made me think about great public spaces.
perhaps the greatest public space in all of america - and perhaps one of the greatest in the world: bryant park (a must see for everyone). The park fills with thousands, if not tens of thousands, of people during lunch.
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| guerra-monstru |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
yes and yes. such a wasteful use of land. LA is probably the worst example of suburbanization. The term city is used very loosely when referring to LA, it actually a long string of suburbs with the quintesential highrise city center that is empty after 5pm. Traffic in LA is bad all the time. I remember spending 4 hours driving about 40 miles from just south of LA to the mountains north of LA. I will never do it again. |
http://www.ers.usda.gov/Publications/EIB14/
Most land use is not urban or suburban, so you complaining about it is not any good. |
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| AnotherWay83 |
yep LA is nothing like NYC or SF, its really just suburbs close to each other and the traffic sucks. you really cant do much without a car. lately tho a number of lofts and apartment complexes have started to come up in downtown LA...but most parts of downtown are still horrible and empty after 5 pm.
i wanna move to NYC or a city like it |
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| jerZ07002 |
that is irrelevant. the question isn't how much land is suburban or urban, it's how we choose to develop the areas we choose to live in. |
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| LazFX |
having lived in both areas... I am moving back out to the country.... at least it will be the country for another 20 years..... then I will sell it for development cause frigging Houston is Growing HUGE!!! and I can move to Brazil......
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i think 20 years is good enough to learn Portuguese :) |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by AnotherWay83
you really cant do much without a car.
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The people who always say that never seem to have actually tried... |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
The people who always say that never seem to have actually tried... |
move to Los Angeles, that statement is pretty close to the truth. LA was seemingly developed by executives from Ford, GM, and Chrysler. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by LazFX
having lived in both areas... I am moving back out to the country.... at least it will be the country for another 20 years..... then I will sell it for development cause frigging Houston is Growing HUGE!!! and I can move to Brazil......
:D
i think 20 years is good enough to learn Portuguese :) |
Well, if there`s anything I can help you with, let me know :) |
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