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Congratulations, Bush - FISA Christmas came early, thanks to the spineless Dems (pg. 9)
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Krypton
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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
You look kind of silly not knowing his first name. But here's your "substance" that you haven't been able to find on your own. Next time, open your eyes.

http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/Obam...ntForChange.pdf


Very good find. This is what every politician needs to do. Put into written word their policy for everyone to see. If they fail to meet their own promises, well, it'll be plain for everyone to see.
LatinLover
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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
You look kind of silly not knowing his first name. But here's your "substance" that you haven't been able to find on your own. Next time, open your eyes.

http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/Obam...ntForChange.pdf


LOOK OBAMA has nothing.... is this all you do post irrelevant excrement? I mean no every single presidential candidate has a blueprint for what he wants to do in every sector in the american govt? (most of the times is the ideas of their advisers)what im trying to tell you is WHEN HAS OBAMA SHOWN LEADERSHIP PRIOR TO HIS PRESIDENTIAL RUN THAT CAN BE BE PUT ON HIS RESUME FOR HIS QUALIFICATIONS FOR BEING PRES? I want valid examples in these areas: war, education, economy, foreign policy etc... I dont give a what he is saying now. I want to see leadership from his part, i want to hear that he was a champion of a major legislation, i want to see his blueprint on important legislation that has made a tremendous impact

You all can wine about Mccain, i could careless. I mean krypton makes me laugh. his major concern is that all these thugs are being tortured in guantanamo. buddy if you dont have any friends or familiy memebers locked up there you shouldnt worry ;)
Lebezniatnikov
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Originally posted by LatinLover
LOOK OBAMA has nothing.... is this all you do post irrelevant excrement? I mean no every single presidential candidate has a blueprint for what he wants to do in every sector in the american govt? (most of the times is the ideas of their advisers)what im trying to tell you is WHEN HAS OBAMA SHOWN LEADERSHIP PRIOR TO HIS PRESIDENTIAL RUN THAT CAN BE BE PUT ON HIS RESUME FOR HIS QUALIFICATIONS FOR BEING PRES? I want valid examples in these areas: war, education, economy, foreign policy etc... I dont give a what he is saying now. I want to see leadership from his part, i want to hear that he was a champion of a major legislation, i want to see his blueprint on important legislation that has made a tremendous impact


You keep changing what you're asking for. Talk about moving the goalposts.

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You all can wine about Mccain, i could careless. I mean krypton makes me laugh. his major concern is that all these thugs are being tortured in guantanamo. buddy if you dont have any friends or familiy memebers locked up there you shouldnt worry ;)


Ah yes, because we should only worry about preserving the Constitution's ability to cover our own asses.
LatinLover
btw Clovis main concern is that Mccain hugged bush :haha: Omg i must guess now that Mccain is a real bad man now. has no morale. how can mccain hug evil bush omg Armageddon is coming

BUT when his candidate wants to meet with chavez, castro and all the foreign dictators without pre conditioning; clovis dosent wine about it. oh thats right is that in clovis world bush is evil and all the foreign dictators are angels.
LatinLover
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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov

Ah yes, because we should only worry about preserving the Constitution's ability to cover our own asses.


you should be the last person in this world talking about the constitution.... you want to defend it? Why dont you sign up in the military and go defend our nation and our constitution? why dont you go fight for us? its easy to talk about defending and preserving it
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by LatinLover
you should be the last person in this world talking about the constitution.... you want to defend it? Why dont you sign up in the military and go defend our nation and our constitution? why dont you go fight for us? its easy to talk about defending and preserving it


well, recent events go to show that fighting for your country has actually undermined your constitution.
Krypton
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You all can wine about Mccain, i could careless. I mean krypton makes me laugh. his major concern is that all these thugs are being tortured in guantanamo. buddy if you dont have any friends or familiy memebers locked up there you shouldnt worry


Thugs huh? Most of the people in Guantanamo Bay don't even belong there...:rolleyes: Shows how much you really know about your beloved Guantanamo Bay prison. Really doesn't surprise me you would support torturing people to death. And yet you claim to be against oppression? Except when we're doing the torture? Never mind the fact we have documented evidence of innocent people being tortured. But I guess that means nothing to you in your blind devotion to the Bush Doctrine. Oh, and the so-called "evidence" for Iraqi WMDs came from detainees under torture, who would say anything just to make the pain stop. Your hypocrisy, idiocy, and ignorance of reality makes me laugh...hysterically...:haha: :haha: :haha:
Krypton
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Originally posted by LatinLover
you should be the last person in this world talking about the constitution.... you want to defend it? Why dont you sign up in the military and go defend our nation and our constitution? why dont you go fight for us? its easy to talk about defending and preserving it


LOL...and YOU? For all the bull you come up with, you should be in Iraq RIGHT NOW...:haha: :haha:
hardcore trancer
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Originally posted by Krypton
LOL...and YOU? For all the bull you come up with, you should be in Iraq RIGHT NOW...:haha: :haha:


Yeah how unAmerican of him not to be fighting in Iraq!!!:mad: I guess Latin doesnt care about his freedom in America. :o
Lebezniatnikov
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Originally posted by LatinLover
you should be the last person in this world talking about the constitution.... you want to defend it? Why dont you sign up in the military and go defend our nation and our constitution? why dont you go fight for us? its easy to talk about defending and preserving it


Haha, how predictable. There are a lot of ways to defend the Constitution, and I'm pretty comfortable that I'm aiding that effort both in my career and my studies. Since you obviously know nothing of either, kindly shut up. One thing I wouldn't count among them is fighting an unconstitutional war against a domestic population that poses no real security risk to the United States. And before you go ballistic about al-Qaeda being a demonstrable threat to the US, know that I'm talking about Iraq.

Anyhow, what are you doing? Still teaching statistics to third graders?

LatinLover
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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Haha, how predictable. There are a lot of ways to defend the Constitution, and I'm pretty comfortable that I'm aiding that effort both in my career and my studies. Since you obviously know nothing of either, kindly shut up. One thing I wouldn't count among them is fighting an unconstitutional war against a domestic population that poses no real security risk to the United States. And before you go ballistic about al-Qaeda being a demonstrable threat to the US, know that I'm talking about Iraq.

Anyhow, what are you doing? Still teaching statistics to third graders?


that proves to you that you dont know anything about the constitution. where the hell in the constitution does it say that if our president wages a war ( with approval from congress) and if its unpopular among americans its a violation to the constitution? buddy i think you are reading the constitution upside down...

let me give you a history lesson. okay from your point lebez a war has to be popular for it to be justifiable? I mean lets analyze hitler... his genocide was popular among germans, hitler did all he did with the consent of the germans right... does that me its justifiable what he did? i dont get your logic.
Clovis
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Originally posted by LatinLover
btw Clovis main concern is that Mccain hugged bush :haha: Omg i must guess now that Mccain is a real bad man now. has no morale. how can mccain hug evil bush omg Armageddon is coming

BUT when his candidate wants to meet with chavez, castro and all the foreign dictators without pre conditioning; clovis dosent wine about it. oh thats right is that in clovis world bush is evil and all the foreign dictators are angels.


Wow way to miss the ing sarcasm. Also, jesus christ man where did you learn to write English?


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buddy if you dont have any friends or familiy memebers locked up there you shouldnt worry


Your principles are clearly completely contrary to those that make this country great. What else is there to say.
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