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Liberal Stephane Dions Carbon Tax (pg. 6)
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
Global warming is sounding more and more like the y2k bug to me... a big ball of bull to push some agenda. |
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| Intuition |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
Global warming is sounding more and more like the y2k bug to me... a big ball of bull to push some agenda. |
Sad, but true. |
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| Yohan |
| Man, this thread is so entertaining |
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| Euphorica |
Global warming is such over hyped bs...
ya I said it. |
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| MarkT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
Man, this thread is so entertaining |
it certainly is.
we have a bunch of keyboard scientists, who have zero formal training or education in the field , dismissing global warming claims by professionals as a Y2K myth.
TA never ceases to amaze me. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
we have a bunch of keyboard scientists, who have zero formal training or education in the field , dismissing global warming claims by professionals as a Y2K myth. |
Two things:
1) Most scientists aren't actually claiming the full man-made cataclysmic global warming "theory". Many confirm various bits and pieces of that theory (i.e. that the earth is getting warmer, or that some gases could potentially cause a very minute greenhouse effect), but it's the media and groups like the IPCC (redistributionist bureaucrats) cobbling it all together into the alarmist hype that most people are used to hearing.
Actually, the most common statement heard by scientists and even several members of the IPCC itself is that there may be a problem and that we should make some changes just to be on the safe side. However, scientists coming to that particular conclusion are very much like scientists believing in God; though their research and arguments have merit, the conclusion itself - the so-called "precautionary principle" - is knee-jerk and highly unscientific and belies the need for a rational cost-benefit analysis.
2) Of course many scientists do support the entire hypothesis. To say otherwise would be foolish, and to dismiss their claims out of hand would be equally foolish. However, to only listen to the scientists who support it and ignore the myriad of other scientists with alternative theories would be even more foolish.
The skeptics aren't some loose collective of deranged lunatics like the 9/11 nuts who can never keep their facts straight and change their story every few weeks. They are huge (and clearly growing!) in number, and all agree on the same fundamental tenets of the global warming movement.
It's fine if you don't agree with those scientists - but don't try to tell us that they don't exist and that we're all "keyboard scientists" dismissing the "real" scientists. |
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| Dave Akermanis |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Two things:
1) Most scientists aren't actually claiming the full man-made cataclysmic global warming "theory". Many confirm various bits and pieces of that theory (i.e. that the earth is getting warmer, or that some gases could potentially cause a very minute greenhouse effect), but it's the media and groups like the IPCC (redistributionist bureaucrats) cobbling it all together into the alarmist hype that most people are used to hearing.
Actually, the most common statement heard by scientists and even several members of the IPCC itself is that there may be a problem and that we should make some changes just to be on the safe side. However, scientists coming to that particular conclusion are very much like scientists believing in God; though their research and arguments have merit, the conclusion itself - the so-called "precautionary principle" - is knee-jerk and highly unscientific and belies the need for a rational cost-benefit analysis.
2) Of course many scientists do support the entire hypothesis. To say otherwise would be foolish, and to dismiss their claims out of hand would be equally foolish. However, to only listen to the scientists who support it and ignore the myriad of other scientists with alternative theories would be even more foolish.
The skeptics aren't some loose collective of deranged lunatics like the 9/11 nuts who can never keep their facts straight and change their story every few weeks. They are huge (and clearly growing!) in number, and all agree on the same fundamental tenets of the global warming movement.
It's fine if you don't agree with those scientists - but don't try to tell us that they don't exist and that we're all "keyboard scientists" dismissing the "real" scientists. |
:rolleyes: I bet when your backyard smells bad you go outside and spray it with CFCs. lol. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dave Akermanis
:rolleyes: I bet when your backyard smells bad you go outside and spray it with CFCs. lol. |
OH NOES HE'S POLLUTING THE ENVIRONMENT, SOMEBODY STOP HIM!!
Actually I live in a condo, so I don't have a backyard. But if I did, I would totally spray it with CFCs every day. As it is, I like to take big spray cans of pure CFC with a little chemical dye and use them for graffiti and to supplement my Hummer H2's natural sheen.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to dump 5 tons of aluminum cans into the local landfill. |
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| Dave Akermanis |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
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Better watch out... he's mandated to take pollution down to zero! :p |
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| SniFFleS |
How in the hell can you create a new tax because the earth has warmed .8 th of a degree in the last 100 years. WTF.
GLOBAL WARMING IS THE BIGGEST SCAM EVER!!!!!
I hope people can research things for themsleves and not listen to a politician (Al Gore). |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by SniFFleS
How in the hell can you create a new tax because the earth has warmed .8 th of a degree in the last 100 years. WTF.
GLOBAL WARMING IS THE BIGGEST SCAM EVER!!!!!
I hope people can research things for themsleves and not listen to a politician (Al Gore). |
AS VP, Al Gore voted against ratifiying Kyoto. That is until he was unemployed and found a new schtick to make money with. |
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| MarkT |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
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my post is more a comment that the vast majority of people here probably have made up their mind without even taking the time to skim over the arguments put forth by each side, let alone actually gain a solid understanding of them. |
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