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| LazFX |
free speech......
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A Canadian stand-up comedian will face a human rights tribunal hearing after a woman complained she and her friends faced a "tirade of homophobic and sexist comments" while attending one of his shows.
In a decision released this week, the B. C. Human Rights Tribunal ruled there is enough evidence to hear the case of Vancouver woman Lorna Pardy against Toronto comedian Guy Earle. Zesty's Restaurant in Vancouver, where the May 22, 2007, show took place, has also been named in the complaint.
Ms. Pardy could not be reached yesterday for comment. However, the tribunal's decision says she alleges she was discriminated against over her sex and sexual orientation when Mr. Earle made public comments "intended to humiliate her."
The ruling says Mr. Earle and Ms. Pardy "have very different versions of who was to blame for the incidents, how it came about and how it escalated." There is also a dispute over what role alcohol played in the incident.
"Mr. Earle does, however, admit that he used comments which he now regrets," says the tribunal. "Those admitted comments may go to establish discrimination."
Reached yesterday, Mr. Earle said he was the show's emcee when Ms. Pardy and two of her friends walked in, sat in the booth closest to the stage and began heckling him and other comics.
"Two of them started making out, flipping me the bird and saying I hated lesbians," he said.
Mr. Earle was reluctant to repeat the remarks that led to the human rights complaint. "Everybody wants to know what I said, and I invite people to come see me on stage because you can't take it out of context. And that's exactly what's happened here.
"The reader or the listener or whatever has no feeling for the environment of the comedy show that is triple-X, edgiest-show-in-town, controversial and offensive, so when you walk in there you're making an agreement to be a party to this controversial show."
"They were drunk, they were being jerks and I was very rude and visceral to them because, like I said, if you have a heckler what you want to do is put them in their place by offending them, so I tried to hit them where it hurts and the only thing I had to key on was the fact that they were lesbians.
"I don't care if they're lesbians, heterosexuals, homosexuals or giraffes."
Mr. Earle said the complaint is an attack on comedians' right to perform. "I would never have expected it would get escalated to a philosophical battle."
He added it's been more than 40 years since controversial U.S. comic Lenny Bruce was jailed for obscenity over his comic material-- "and we're still fighting the same battle. I know it's a fight I can never win. But I've got to keep fighting."
Mr. Earle is holding a benefit concert on July 19 in Toronto to raise money for his legal fees.
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| Fir3start3r |
| Welcome to the, "Oh my gawd, I think my feelings are hurt, I think I'll press charges" nanny society... :rolleyes: |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by LazFX
free speech......
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So because of that, no Canadian has any right to criticise anything about America?!
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
So because of that, no Canadian has any right to criticise anything about America?!
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You'd be surprised.
Free speech here in Canada has been under attack quite recently in the past few years, and with more frequency.
The real kicker is that no one seems to care at the moment.
The 'Human Rights Tribunal' aka Kangaroo Court is also subjective - evidence isn't pertinent as in a true criminal court.
This particular court was created to protect those being discriminated against when it comes to being denied a job or renting an apartment because of race, creed, religion, etc., etc.
However, there seems to be a HUGE sucking pit of a loophole where if someone's 'feelings' gets hurt they'll go to the Human Rights Tribunal because, unfortunately, they have a 100% conviction rate... |
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| Fir3start3r |
Here's a little more on what I'm saying which is very relevant to what's happening here in Canada (and abroad).
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The Jihad of the Word
Tuesday, 24th June 2008
The signs have been ominous for some time but now it has become clear beyond a doubt that those who tell the truth about Islam, Islamism or Islamist terrorism risk having their career, livelihood and maybe even their liberty placed in jeopardy – and all in the name of human rights. In Canada, the columnist Mark Steyn has been arraigned before a kangaroo court for the crime of publishing in Macleans magazine an excerpt from his bestseller, America Alone, in which he argues that demographic change is turning Europe Islamic. Led by the Canadian Islamic Congress, Muslims have taken Steyn and Macleans to a ‘human rights’ tribunal on a charge of ‘hate speech’, a totalitarian statute enforced by the Canadian Human Rights Commission (sic) who are in the business of destroying the freedom to voice perfectly legitimate – indeed, absolutely vital and important – opinions about the need to defend western society against Islamist attack. Bad enough that Islamists browbeat and threaten people who express such opinions. For a body such as the CHRC to do their dirty work for them and act as the enforcers of the jihad against free speech takes us straight into the nightmare landscape of Kafka. Read this article to get a flavour of the terrifying nature of these proceedings, the mixture of gross abuse of power, mad thinking and clownish incompetence which characterises totalitarian regimes and has been playing in a courtroom in downtown British Columbia. Perhaps the most chilling observation of all is this:
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The Canadian Human Rights Commission, which enforces the act, has a record of conviction that recalls the awful efficiency of Soviet courts: In over three decades of existence, the commission has yet to find someone innocent.
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This article spells out in more detail how the Canadian human rights tribunals have been handed unfettered power to abuse power:
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The human-rights tribunals are a censor’s dream. Under Canada’s human-rights act, commissioners can convict if they believe any published material is “likely to expose a person or persons to hatred or contempt.” Since they are “remedial” institutions and not real courts, they need not follow strict legal procedures or grant traditional rights of the accused. No one goes to prison, but the panels can fine and silence people at will — and run up the lawyer bills for years. Truth is no defense, and commissioners are authorized to confiscate a computer without a warrant. Evidence can be woefully flimsy.
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But this appalling development is not confined to Canada. A few days ago the UN decided to outlaw any criticism of Islamism – as defined by the Islamists themselves. Since they classify any criticism whatsoever of Islamist aggression as ‘Islamophobic’, this means that the UN will outlaw all such comment. As Jeffrey Imm has reported on CounterterrorismBlog:
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On June 16, 2008 UNHRC president Doru Romulus Costea announced that criticism of Sharia law will not be tolerated by the UNHRC, based on the complaints and pressure by Islamist delegates to the UNHRC. In effect, the Islamist nations represented at the UNHRC have effected a Jihad against freedom of speech at the United Nations when it comes to criticizing Sharia or Islamic supremacist (aka Islamist) theocratic ideologies that threaten the freedom and lives of innocents around the world. This again demonstrates the key imperative of control for Islamists -- in this case in terms of controlling ideas, thoughts, and words of an international organization intended to promote human rights. Outgoing UNHRC Commissioner Louise Arbour subsequently raised concerns about debates on Sharia becoming 'taboo' within the United Nations group, stating that it 'should be, among other things, the guardian of freedom of expression.'
The UNHRC ban on debate regarding Sharia came as a result of a three minute joint statement by the Association for World Education with the International Humanist and Ethical Union (IHEU) to the Human Rights Council on women's rights and the impact of Sharia law. These NGOs sought to address international issues of violence against women, specifically, the stoning of women, 'honor killings' of women, and female genital mutilation, as a result of Sharia law.
The Islamic Republic of Pakistan, the Islamic Republic of Iran, and the Arab Republic of Egypt vehemently criticized this attempted NGO message, interrupting it via ‘16 points of order’, for an hour and twenty-five minutes per the IEHU. Jihad Watch provides a full transcript of the debate. The Egyptian UNHRC delegate claimed that silencing these NGOs was necessary to ensure ‘that Islam will not be crucified in this Council,’ but the fact is that Islamist forces seek to silence any debate on Sharia at all -- anywhere, any time.
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This is of course merely the latest demonstration that the UN is now simply a club of tyranny. But the really frightening thing is the almost total indifference to these developments by the western media. So quick to take up the cause of free speech when the protagonists are the enemies of the west, they are all but silent when the freedom to speak in defence of western values is snuffed out. That of course is because the freedom of speech lobby marches behind the banners of ‘human rights’ and minority victim culture which, despite their mind-bending self-designation as ‘progressive’ attitudes, constitute nothing other than a full-out onslaught against western values by cultural Marxism -- now marching shoulder to shoulder with the Islamists in their common cause to destroy the free world. Their ranks include a distressingly large number of useful idiots, who for a variety of reasons – posturing vanity, conformist inanity, shallow ignorance, careerism, fear, whatever – are helping to further the jihad against the free world, which is predicated upon precisely this kind of cultural and moral confusion.
From the fatwa against Salman Rushdie and the burning of his book to the murder and mayhem unleashed over the Mohammed cartoons, it has long been clear that dictating what can and cannot be said is a key salient of the Islamist onslaught. It is thus of the utmost importance that freedom of speech is upheld. But both in the Rushdie affair and over the Mohammed cartoons, alas, much of the free world capitulated and even bought into the rhetoric of Islamist suppression, blaming both Rushdie and the cartoons for stepping over a permitted line. The same kind of people are now turning on Mark Steyn. But he has not stepped over the line. He is trying to hold it. The Canadian thought-police who would bring him down will surely bring the rest of us down with him.
As the pressure group Liberty and its latter-day prophet David Davis prance about Britain with their preposterous assertion that extending detention for terror suspects will destroy ancient liberties, we might well ask why not a peep has been heard from them about these recent developments and the real threat to freedom from the jihad of the word.
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| Clovis |
| All should have a right to a voice, no matter how much comes out of their mouths. |
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| adi_hanson |
| i tell you what , search ROY CHUBBY BROWN on youtube , and think that womans problems matter |
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| Magnetonium |
The world is crazy ... I wish the planet got itself rid of the human disease. I'm tired of all the bull, personally. There's no end in sight to it all. |
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| adi_hanson |
the only disease is people who only want people to conform to there ideas
and for some reason the most obsurd stories come straight out of the good old U S of A
here in england , its common to hear before 9pm and drug use is simulated in daytime television , sexual banter can happen in morning shows (aka double entendre)
you people need to relax
(it only happens in america!) |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by adi_hanson
the only disease is people who only want people to conform to there ideas
and for some reason the most obsurd stories come straight out of the good old U S of A
here in england , its common to hear before 9pm and drug use is simulated in daytime television , sexual banter can happen in morning shows (aka double entendre)
you people need to relax
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You kidding me ... the political situation is only the tip of the iceberg. Nearly 45,000 people die every day from lack of food and clean water, 2 billion+ people live on less than a dollar a day, 9 football fields of forest get cut down every minute, 75% of ocean fisheries are overfished or near capacity, millions of pounds of pollution gets released into the air every year, population is exploding, environment degrading, pharmaceuticals ending up in water and food, degrading quality of food and huge amount of chemicals and preservatives, GMO's, etc.
Like seriously, if you consider everything thats going on around the world, its amazing enough to see that the world and our society is still functional and "healthy". But there are serious problems out there that will come to bite everyone soon if they are not addressed in the very near future, or today.
Human beings are turning into animals, into hordes, into machines. We are losing our human touch and getting away from reality. We've been turned into consumers, into sheep, and have no decent choices to make of things in life, not even talking about decent choices in politics. |
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| adi_hanson |
i was more referring to televison but you do have a point
its like seeing people scramling to the top , over a mountain of humans jus to get to the top |
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