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Lebanon greets freed prisoners, Israel mourns remains
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| prolikewhoa |
| quote: | Five Lebanese prisoners released by Israel as part of an exchange deal with the Hezbollah movement have received a heroes' welcome on returning home.
Samir Kuntar, who was jailed for three murders in Israel, and four men captured during the 2006 war with Hezbollah were swapped for coffins containing the remains two Israeli soldiers.
Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev were captured during the cross-border raid by Hezbollah which sparked the 34-day war in 2006.
"The Israelis certainly lost that war, they did not get their prisoners back - not until now and they're getting them back dead. So more than 1,000 Lebanese civilians and more than 160 Israelis, most of them soldiers, all died for absolutely nothing and that's what today's prisoner exchanges prove. |
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what is your take on the exchange? what progress, if any, does it signify for Israeli-Lebanese relations? |
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| TranceGiant |
| Moral victory on Israel's side, but for a way too high price. Disgusting barbaric Lebeanese reaction, as usual, though. |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceGiant
Moral victory on Israel's side, but for a way too high price. Disgusting barbaric Lebeanese reaction, as usual, though. |
Well you need to separate "Lebanon" with "Hizballah" in this instance, they're Hizballah prisoners. It's also worth pointing out that Israel returned the remains of 200 Lebanese and Palestinians... |
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| tathi |
i completely understand why the people have Lebanon have reacted as they did, its a form of catharsis after so much tears and mourning for all the innocent civilians barbarically butchered by Israels war machine that went haywire over two soldiers and disproportionately bombed Lebanon back to the stone age.
and i feel for the Israelis too, i really do, and i hope both sides realise how ing stupid this war was but i know that will never happen, both sides will continue to think they have the moral high ground and will continue to murder each other over stupid this |
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| Krypton |
| I don't believe anything but total anihilation of either side will ever end this conflict. Chilling, I know... |
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| TranceGiant |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
Well you need to separate "Lebanon" with "Hizballah" in this instance, they're Hizballah prisoners. It's also worth pointing out that Israel returned the remains of 200 Lebanese and Palestinians... |
Well, that's the point, though, unfortunately. It IS "Lebanon" I'm talking about since political leaders from all ideological corners are participating in the celebrations. Be it the Prime minister, all religious authorities and even Druze leaders who are at war with Hizballah. Not to mention the Palestinians and their President Abbas who called Kuntar a "brave man" and expressed his joy for his final return.
On a side note Kuntar carried out his "operation" (well actually the cruel massacre of an entire family party with his bear hands) long before Hizballah even came into being. Nasrallah is just cynically exploiting his so-called mrtyr status for his own propaganda.
As for the TWO HUNDRED, we're talking about fighters who died on the battleground against Israeli forces, as it regularly happens when two parties fight. That just cannot be compared with the unmotivated abduction and killing of soldiers patroulling beyond your own borders. But of course nothing's simpler than the good old "both sides are bad" argument. So tempting and yet so wrong, at least concerning this topic. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
I don't believe anything but total anihilation of either side will ever end this conflict. Chilling, I know... |
i've been saying that for a while. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| They couldnt have done this exchange before they bombed the out of Lebenon?:rolleyes: |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
They couldnt have done this exchange before they bombed the out of Lebenon?:rolleyes: |
if the goal is to recover the soldiers 'alive' without giving up palestinians(hezbollah) then no. it was the prospect of never recovering the bodies that brought it to this point. immediately after the capture it appeared (to the israelis) they could recover them through military operations. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
immediately after the capture it appeared (to the israelis) they could recover them through military operations. |
Which ended up being a huge failure and didnt solve anything at all.They just made alot of people pissed off and many killed for two captured soldiers. |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Which ended up being a huge failure and didnt solve anything at all.They just made alot of people pissed off and many killed for two captured soldiers. |
Then again, Hezbollah shouldn't be going around capturing soldiers in the first place. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
Then again, Hezbollah shouldn't be going around capturing soldiers in the first place. |
I agree.Keep in mind that both sides have been capturing soldiers for on both sides for years.Iam just wondering why Isreal decided to go to war against a whole country over two captured soldiers.Also I really want to know what made the Hezbollah to go and capture those two Isreali soldiers. |
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