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Placing a limiter on master channel before or after production (pg. 2)
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| palm |
| quote: | Originally posted by derail
Dynamics in a trance song are extremely important. |
how come trance doesnt have dynamics att all anymore then?
i also recomend this article for those of you who havent read it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_War |
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| derail |
You'll be able to see where a breakdown occurs by looking at a trance song's overall waveform (if the song contains a breakdown). If it's still peaking at 0dB at that point it's going to sound very odd and there'll be no buildup of energy at all heading into where the other elements come back in.
Not every song will have a breakdown, but many still do, and you'll be able to see some shape to a trance song. More so than some other genres which hit 0dB from start to finish. |
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| Seven Doxian |
| Deadmau5 and Maor Levi both mix into the limiter ....curiously how do you set up your limiter to mix into ?....is it set to half the gain of what youll use total? |
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| PaULiN0 |
| Try to leave the master channel empty, please. |
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| kosmotika |
I usually put a limiter on the master track after mastering each individual track. I find that this works a lot better than compression, which is what I used to do, and it would make my songs sound distorted, a bit messy and just plain TOO LOUD.
With the limiter, I limit the track not to the point where it sounds "fine" but to where there's hardly anything being cut off, just the frequencies that really stick out like a sore thumb. This is where watching the waveform comes in. That's the last step before I mix down. Then I take the track and use Wavepad to normalize the audio so that the volume is boosted to the highest frequency of the track without audio distortion.
I'd really recommend this process, it's allowed me to keep the track at a decent level volume while retaining all the dynamics of the audio. |
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| Seven Doxian |
| quote: | Originally posted by kosmotika
I usually put a limiter on the master track after mastering each individual track. I find that this works a lot better than compression, which is what I used to do, and it would make my songs sound distorted, a bit messy and just plain TOO LOUD.
With the limiter, I limit the track not to the point where it sounds "fine" but to where there's hardly anything being cut off, just the frequencies that really stick out like a sore thumb. This is where watching the waveform comes in. That's the last step before I mix down. Then I take the track and use Wavepad to normalize the audio so that the volume is boosted to the highest frequency of the track without audio distortion.
I'd really recommend this process, it's allowed me to keep the track at a decent level volume while retaining all the dynamics of the audio. |
Ok so just before any peaks are squashed |
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| evo8 |
cant get those links to work, id like to see what exactly deadmau5 is doing in relation to "mixing into a limiter"
ive got a lot of on my master channel but i leave limiting for when the mix is done |
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| Vector A |
| Put one limiter on before, then add a second one after. Maybe a third to top it off if I am feeling daring. |
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| MSZ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vector A
Put one limiter on before, then add a second one after. Maybe a third to top it off if I am feeling daring. |
Dont forget to put one in-between. |
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| Seven Doxian |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vector A
Put one limiter on before, then add a second one after. Maybe a third to top it off if I am feeling daring. |
So in otherwords spread the workload evenly across both limiters ?.....is this for better transparency? Ive also noticed they teach mixing with a limiter at dubspot as well. |
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