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How do you make a loop not sound like its looping? =] (pg. 3)
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| Frequency Frank |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sonic_c
One thing i learned recently mate is that motifs etc can carry a loop by having a conversation with each other. A loop gets boring when it is just asking a question with no answer.
Think of a this
Baa baa black sheep (Question)
Have you any wool (second part of question)
yes sir yes sir (first answer)
3 bags full (second part of answer)
before you take the piss this is in a trance production book and my friends tutor at music college said it as well. Still wish i had a better example than that LOL |
Shave and a haircut........ |
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| airwalker1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
Maybe a crazy question.
I play a lot with variations, quantizing, shuffles, delays and I can't figure out whether its because I KNOW its looping that it sounds like its looping or if anyone has any special tips to make a loop sound more like its driving and moving forward rather than going in circles?
I was watching a couple computer music vids where they offset the loop like 20ms ahead of the kick drum but it always friggn sounds like its going in circles.
Is this a head game because it always seems when I hear another persons track, and can't see how it was designed, that it seems less like its going in circles. I'm thinking about doing like 8 or even 16 bar percussion variations but that seems a little extreme. |
"that`s where sidechaing helps,ie ad a siechain to your loop just enough to make it move onto the directin you want" |
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| adi_hanson |
kick - 4bar
hihat1 - 4bar , flank ghost notes either side,reverb,delay
hihat2 - 4bar , lower velocity on 2nd and 4th,reverb ,delay
hihat3 - 8 bar , same as above but vary the lay out ,reverb , delay
hihat4 - 4 bar , usually a shaker but i dont always use that
clap (aka the bitch)-4 bar , ghost , delay , reverb , compress
also i timesretch notes , but do all of the above in the sequencer , could use a plugin but i find the above fun and interesting to do
the term i think you use to unloop or undo a repetive sound is humanising sound , someone may need to confirm that!
hope that helps |
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| Sonic_c |
as mentioned in this thread before. Something i am enjoying no end !
GET GLITCH
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RUN GLITCH
:D :D :D |
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| adi_hanson |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sonic_c
as mentioned in this thread before. Something i am enjoying no end !
GET GLITCH
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RUN GLITCH
:D :D :D |
just downloaded and trying out ,
it does some crazy lol |
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| Sonic_c |
| yep now run it over a 16 bar loop. mix down run it over another 16 bar loop slightly diff setting or whatever you now have 32 bars of interesting loopy madness. |
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| adi_hanson |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sonic_c
yep now run it over a 16 bar loop. mix down run it over another 16 bar loop slightly diff setting or whatever you now have 32 bars of interesting loopy madness. |
ive just run it over a 16 bar lead synth and automated the 2 timestretcher knobs and got a great build up noise , bit like a car engine speeding up , i think i might use it for effects aswell , gonna have a play now :-) |
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| Bren-F |
I find a good way of masking loop points is to take the sample into a wave editor and use a fade out/fade in on the beginning and end of the loop - it needs only be like a miliseconds worth of edit, barely noticible by ear, but gets rid of that annoying loop point 'click'
Then adding a small amount of reverb (with prominent tail) can mask the effect quite well.
This tends to work better on single sounds (pads/synths etc.) rather than drum samples and the like. |
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| Subtle |
| Putting a gate on a loop can help too. |
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| flutlicht junky |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sonic_c
Slinky wooooo |
:D roll on aly&fila, tyas and marcel woods!!!!! :thepirate |
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| dj_alfi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sonic_c
So what is the big deal with people who maybe don’t know as much as you asking a question you do not have to answer on a forum designed to share production knowledge?
SO
Newbie questions Vs Experienced producers getting annoyed share your thoughts!!!! |
All the newbie questions have been answered a million times before, and if the newcomers would take the time to read the sticky labeled "Please Read: Music Production FAQ", they would find that there is no need to create a new thread. |
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| Sonic_c |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_alfi
All the newbie questions have been answered a million times before, and if the newcomers would take the time to read the sticky labeled "Please Read: Music Production FAQ", they would find that there is no need to create a new thread. |
I get it now |
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