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Can You Hear The Difference Between 128 vs 320? (pg. 2)
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| Clovis |
I wouldn't trust an online test anyway.
Take a 320 of a tune you have, make it a 128 via soundforge and try that. Pretty simple. |
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| cmay119 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
I wouldn't trust an online test anyway.
Take a 320 of a tune you have, make it a 128 via soundforge and try that. Pretty simple. |
Here in lies the problem with that. If you make a 128 (or any bit-rate) MP3 from an MP3, it will be poorer quality than the target bit-rate you're going for.
To have a true comparison you'd need to make a 128 & 320 converted from a lossless file source (preferably a .wav). |
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| sgillespie |
The thing about mp3 is that you lose frequencies that you don't hear on typical sound systems.
Besides, why would you use mp3 if you can use flac or even ogg |
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| palm |
| why use flac or ogg or whatever when mp3 320kbps is supported everywhere? dont go below 320 it sounds crap. |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by palm
why use flac or ogg or whatever when mp3 320kbps is supported everywhere? dont go below 320 it sounds crap. |
Cause flac sounds better. |
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| sgillespie |
| quote: | Originally posted by cmay119
Here in lies the problem with that. If you make a 128 (or any bit-rate) MP3 from an MP3, it will be poorer quality than the target bit-rate you're going for.
To have a true comparison you'd need to make a 128 & 320 converted from a lossless file source (preferably a .wav). |
Yes, never convert between lossy formats |
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| Watts |
| I couldn't tell the difference. |
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| palm |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
Cause flac sounds better. |
but were not listening to classic or jazz are we? 320 is good enough |
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| echosystm |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
Cause flac sounds better. |
yeah but it won't work on most mp3 players etc. and has support in general. |
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| Darkarbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by palm
but were not listening to classic or jazz are we? 320 is good enough |
Most noticeable artifacts of mp3 that you can still hear in 320 a bit:
Strings plain suck at low bitrate, so do pads or similar.
Pitch wobble/growler bass sucks, for a similar reason to strings or pads (Dnb, Trance, Liquid, many more)
Reverb sucks (trance)
Older style mastered stuff sucks, and even then you still get extra (anything but house really) clarity with higher bitrate (anything old, goa trance in particular)
Anything where base is somewhat important. That rules out anything with either synthed (with deep bass) or real kicks as well as anything with important baselines (Dnb, Breaks, trance, techno, big beat, uk garage, dubstep, goa... and some psy etc)
That pretty much just leaves house(even then your still going to get some extra benefit from higher bitrate). 320 is not good enough. When I've just listened to an album on cd and I hear it in 320 then I can immedietly see a part of the overall feel is gone and when I got an album which I'd previously only heard in 128kbps it was bliss. |
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| Polt |
| I took this "test" before and could tell the difference. It doesn't really prove anything though. |
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