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How can I get profesional sounding quality? (pg. 3)
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Kid_presentable
quote:
Originally posted by derail
Perhaps, in which case I take my response back. The combination of "you're a real pro" and the "LOL" made it sound sarcastic.


Indeed. however, i have read some of his other posts and he is rather generous with his loling.
DJ Robby Rox
I use to analyze peoples sounds and ask them how the hell they got sounds so clear and they would say "just keep practicing".

Of course that will help but my BIGGEST change in clarity was this.
I always had a habit of going equalizer crazy and thinking *that was the key to clear sounds.

After I started using hi-pass filters for a bit there was a huge leap in my sound quality. Also low-pass when neccessary but hi-pass really cleared out room for the sounds how I needed.

Sidechaining is ALSO very important. You can use it as an effect, but even if you *slightly use it on a bass it may be nearly impossible to hear but getting that bass to drop when the kick hits if even a tiny bit is huge.

Good sounds is important too but pick sounds that *lock* together in the track. When you write the melodies focus on the timing and groove. If you have bass hitting - -- - its not a bad idea to have hats hitting - -- -. Because you'll have high frequencies and low playing the same time. Pay attention to what sounds play at the same interval and make sure they're not battling for headspace.

And HEADSPACE itself is extremely important. I always like to leave some room just for sounds to breathe, plus you'll focus less on adding filler sounds that don't belong in the first place. Literally loop an entire pattern and rather then equalizing to death ask yourself "what frequency range is inherent to this sound?"

Bass/Low. Check to make sure you don't have any other sounds with that inherent frequency range. Which is reason why people hi-pass running basslines when theres a deeper sub. Its just the art of making peace between sounds.
Vancouver
thanks for that reply Robby Rox. A lot of good things for me to think about. Im going to go look for a tutorial about sidechaining.
Sonic_c
Yeah sorry posted late last night just got into the office. I was being sincere I liked your tunes and was saying basically he should listen to you because i am in effect still quite new. So sorry if it came across wrong I liked your songs. Also yes i do use LOL sometimes when it is not even relevant just a habit i suppose damn chat language!
Sonic_c
quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
Sonic_c I was listening to your tunes and they good your a real pro! Dude take this guys advice LOL :wtf:


Look no need to be sarcastic I have not once said my tracks are great I just enjoy making them.
Storyteller
ok sorry.
Sonic_c
quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
ok sorry.


No hard feelings :D
Storyteller
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
I use to analyze peoples sounds and ask them how the hell they got sounds so clear and they would say "just keep practicing".

Of course that will help but my BIGGEST change in clarity was this.
I always had a habit of going equalizer crazy and thinking *that was the key to clear sounds.

After I started using hi-pass filters for a bit there was a huge leap in my sound quality. Also low-pass when neccessary but hi-pass really cleared out room for the sounds how I needed.

Sidechaining is ALSO very important. You can use it as an effect, but even if you *slightly use it on a bass it may be nearly impossible to hear but getting that bass to drop when the kick hits if even a tiny bit is huge.

Good sounds is important too but pick sounds that *lock* together in the track. When you write the melodies focus on the timing and groove. If you have bass hitting - -- - its not a bad idea to have hats hitting - -- -. Because you'll have high frequencies and low playing the same time. Pay attention to what sounds play at the same interval and make sure they're not battling for headspace.

And HEADSPACE itself is extremely important. I always like to leave some room just for sounds to breathe, plus you'll focus less on adding filler sounds that don't belong in the first place. Literally loop an entire pattern and rather then equalizing to death ask yourself "what frequency range is inherent to this sound?"

Bass/Low. Check to make sure you don't have any other sounds with that inherent frequency range. Which is reason why people hi-pass running basslines when theres a deeper sub. Its just the art of making peace between sounds.


In addition I would say, use EQ only when needed. A basic guideline for me which i use is: "Cut out everything on a sound where possible (using eq/filter) while you feel it doesn't change the sound when the full track is playing.

This way you cut out frequencies which are unnecesary for the full track and you create a bit of space and seperation of sounds within your track. You ensure the instrument just uses the space which is relevant. In the end this will be beneficial to create a clear mixdown :)

Of course you can use EQ as a creative tool as well, but that's a different story :).

I would really recommend the video tutorials, some have a very much hands on approach and when I watched just one (!) I had an instant jump in my sound quality. A lot of times learning through vids is very efficient and simple. :) It could teach you about different approached to a same concept, but also how they craft their sounds, for instance.

quote:
Originally posted by Sonic_c
No hard feelings :D


:)
Kid_presentable
quote:
Originally posted by Sonic_c
No hard feelings :D


theres no way that big grin was sincere! lol

the internet does my head in :nervous:
Sonic_c
It was genuine I just want to get on here mate I don’t want to argue and start flaming etc.

Kid_presentable
im just jokin around ur alright
Nick Cenik
Never stop asking questions and seeking the advice of others willing to give it! This forum is full of very helpful folks who do not mind assisting somebody who is dedicated to learning :)
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