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DSP Cards - What to get? (pg. 3)
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| dannib |
I only have the single licensed Virus plugin, it is all i need. It is 4 parts multitimbral, meaning one instance can have 4 seperate patches playing at the same time, with each being routed to a different mixer channel within your sequencer.
I had the hardware virus b in my studio for 4 years and the powercore virus sounds identical. |
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| Lucidity |
| So if I just wanted to get one card basically just to run Virus,(I don't need the other vst's, I have everything I need natively) which one would be my best bet to get? Do I just go for the cheapest one or will I actually have better performance with a more expensive one? Basically what I am asking is will the Virus plug run same performance level no matter what card I get. I know you need more cards or licenses to get more polyphony. But as far as glitching and what not is it stable? |
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| Storyteller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lucidity
So if I just wanted to get one card basically just to run Virus,(I don't need the other vst's, I have everything I need natively) which one would be my best bet to get? Do I just go for the cheapest one or will I actually have better performance with a more expensive one? Basically what I am asking is will the Virus plug run same performance level no matter what card I get. I know you need more cards or licenses to get more polyphony. But as far as glitching and what not is it stable? |
The virus needs one full DSP to work correctly. Every card has at least 1 DSP, so yes it will work properly :).
More DSP's just means more processing power and thus means you can run more plugins :). Some plugins are light enough to allow 4 instances being processed by one DSP for instance. Well, at least that's the case with UAD. |
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| Eric J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Storyteller
Some plugins are light enough to allow 4 instances being processed by one DSP for instance. Well, at least that's the case with UAD. |
I don't know about you guys, but I can run 3 or 4 instances of the 1176-LN, at least 2 Fairchld 670's and 6 or 7 instances of the Cambridge EQ on a single UAD card, so you can run a fair amount of stuff on a single card, depending on how it is used. |
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| dannib |
here is a quick rundown of how many dsps each powercore card has:
Powercore X8 = 8 DSPs
Powercore Firewire = 4 DSPs
powercore Compact - 2 DSPs
Powercore PCIe mk11 = 4 DSPs
I personally use a powercore firewire with Cubase SX3 and have never ran into any poblems. If you bought a Powercore PCIe mk11 for example, the virus plugin would take up EXACTLY 1 DSP leaving you three DSPs for the other plugins (very nice included reverbs). The one virus plugin gives you 4 parts multitimbral meaning it is like running 4 instances of most software synths anyway.
I have heard of some people running into timing problems when using the virus plugin but i have not encountered any problems myself.
I also like to use the virus as an effects plugin, running external sources through its filters, distortion algorithms, reverbs, delays etc. |
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| Lucidity |
Can you run the Powercore PCIe on a pc? Or is that one for mac only?
Also what would be the biggest difference between the express and the PCI mk11, just latency? |
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| dannib |
| the biggest difference (which im sure you already know) is that the PCIe card has to be fitted into a PCIe slot on your motherboard, the PCI card has to be fitted into a PCI slot. PCI is going to be obsolete long before PCIe. It is gradually getting harder to find motherboards with PCI slots. PCIe cards also have performance advantages and a better resale value. |
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| dannib |
| Forgot to add. Yes you can use a PCIe card with a pc, as long as your motherboard has a slot for one. |
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| Lucidity |
Yes, I knew this about PCI and PCIe, its just, for some reason I remember reading a while back that the PCIe dsp card was for mac only. But that was a while back, that may have been the case at the time and not any more. Or maybe I am just retarted:crazy:
But, If the cards have the same chips, what is the big difference? Just latency? The reason I ask is because on this page
http://www.tcelectronic.com/PowerCoreExpress.asp
They make the 2 cards seem the same, they say they run the same amount of plugs and same dsp speed. So is the biggest difference just latency? |
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| spolitta |
| What you probably read was that Mac Pros don't have a PCI slot, only 4 PCIe. |
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