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PDD Election -> The Primaries (pg. 5)
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| Magnetonium |
Hahah ... I wonder as to how many of the people who voted actually did so for the candidates' platform instead of picking the TA's they prefer ;-) hahah ... :stongue: |
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| idoru |
| Wasn't too hard of a choice. |
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| Dervish |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
The schools obviously will have a first come, first serve thing going with a maximum capacity. So parents are obliged to register their student at the earliest possible date. Easy. |
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So like a post code lottery decides who gets the best places?
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It's government intervention, but not big government. If a company integral to the financial system is about to go bust, do you expect the government sit around and watch it happen? Additionally, the company in question would be sold off to repay the government's bailout, so no losses to taxpayers. Also, I said I would eliminate all taxes except for 1 sales tax. That's a drastic reduction in tax loop holes and IRS bureaucracy. Also, I'de end the militarism which is now rampant in this country. Why do we need to spend more than all country's combined in military expenditures. So bombs are more important than a college education? This isn't big government, it's smaller government.
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If the company ends up being worth nothing then the government (and ergo people) get nothing while offering a degree of protection for share holder*, if not in the bailed out organisation then the organisations on which said company has defaulted on.
It's a defense industry how many people are employed in it? How much does the US sell on? I work in this an believe me it stimulates growth and research into so many things.
| quote: | Who said you need a national grid? All you have to do is install solar panels on one's house. Easy. In addition that, huge investments would be made to modify the national power grid to transport energy generated by alternative means through to customers. As for the tax thing, I would probably give them a tax break up to the amount they spent on installing the alternative energy generator. If this amount if more than their income tax, then they pay no taxes. But also, I'm trying to get rid of income taxes, so if I got rid of income taxes, then the sale of alternative energy components would be tax free.
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As someone who's previous job titles include "Electrical Engineer" you have no idea how it is distributed. (never normally this harsh but I dunno how to even begin to discuss it with you).
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The Taliban trained nobody for 9/11. You're misinformed on that. AL-QAIDA gave them the support, AMERICAN FLIGHT SCHOOLS trained them. More importantly, you explain to me why America needs 702 foreign bases in 130 countries. Please tell me how wanting to reduce this empire of bases is isolationist. What other country has that many foreign bases? No, tell me what country has bases on ALL 6 INHABITED CONTINENTS!
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Basically many countries have bases in many countries that are not their own so what? The taliban did indeed support the development of many terrorists, don't get me wrong though so have the medrassas in Pakistan. I'm not some American fox news watcher this is a carefully considered policy. Nevermind that 95% of UK heroin comes from there.
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There would still be the option to buy private health insurance. So freedom of choice is still present. But for those who can't afford health insurance, well, they have an option too. Almost half the company would be publicly owned too. And why should America have the most expensive health system in the world when it doesn't have to? Hell, I had a skin biopsy done several months ago. It cost me several hundred dollars for the simplest procedure which took only 5 minutes. The local anesthetic, instruments, pathology, and doctor "labor" should cost no more than $100, but instead was more in the range of $500. I'm sorry, but health services are unnecessarily expensive.
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They are but the institution now of an American NHS would just lead to you guys paying "market rate" why would the private sector want to give you it cheaper?
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The US has spent tens of billions of dollars on a "War on Drugs". And to what effect? Drugs are still here and all you have to do is find the right people, and boom, you can buy cocaine, ecstasy, whatever drugs you want. What's the point in spending still more billions? Anyways, marijuana is by far, the most used illegal substance, so legalizing that would free up law enforcement to focus on the production and sale of hard drugs. With the money spent now to criminalize drug users, this money would be much better spent on drug rehabilitation. No, there would be no massive initial expenditure. The expenditures ARE ALREADY MASSIVE.
Your assumption drug use will rise is not a wise one. Marijuana use of course MAY rise, but hard drugs, no. The people using hard drugs almost always never sought out to use them. They were introduced to it through say a guy they know who sells weed, but also had a little coke on side. My policy would take weed away from the criminal elements and dramatically decrease instances of weed being associative with hard drugs.
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Well we are both in the realm of conjecture but I really do think that if you remove the criminalization of people using hard drugs they will be more likely to try it, where is the penalty?
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I would have the federal government encourage downtown development. And of course, public transit development would get federal funds too.
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Why push more people into the same area though? I do agree with spending on public transit systems though.
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Just US headquartered companies. And the jobs in question would be manufacturing jobs. If a manufacturing job is moved overseas, then the product produced must be sold overseas.
1. Foreign-bought goods would require no tax. Who do you know buys gas, food, clothes, etc. all outside of the country?
2. No import duty.
3. This covers all business transactions within the USA.
4. The employment of a service is a business transaction, and so would require a sales tax, because something is being sold. There is no "double whammy". Every business already charges their customers taxes and pays taxes themselves. That's not "double taxation". |
Ok no import tax would mean that everyone would just import their goods at a what 23% discount? (can't remember your numbers)
That REALLY makes no sense. In the internet world why buy from a US website that charges 23% more (or whatever) just because it is in the US.
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| Dervish |
| quote: | Originally posted by St_Andrew
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Ok my main point is that yes you can add all these weights and measures to balance it out, but in the end you end up having a huge system to cover something that is fairly simple.
I have no doubt the voucher scheme can work, just that with all the regulations and measures to make it fair and balanced it provides no advantage.
Not saying either is really better though because it does rely on the detail and while we are discussing it on our non defined country we can have no real data for it. (depressingly, but that level of data is maybe a bit much for a web forum dedicated to trance music anyway) :p |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dervish
So like a post code lottery decides who gets the best places? |
No, the parents decide which are the best places by the number of schools who reach maximum capacity. Basically, the "market" chooses, because the parents choose the school they want their child in.
| quote: | If the company ends up being worth nothing then the government (and ergo people) get nothing while offering a degree of protection for share holder*, if not in the bailed out organisation then the organisations on which said company has defaulted on.
It's a defense industry how many people are employed in it? How much does the US sell on? I work in this an believe me it stimulates growth and research into so many things. |
First off, the only bail out done would be in the event of a possible systemic collapse. And a company whose existence is depended on by an entire economic system is one worth more than nothing.
As for the defense industry....Their perfect market is a nation which is always at war. How do these company's make a profit if the world is at peace? Very very dangerous when this military-industrial complex has such power with our own government.
| quote: | | As someone who's previous job titles include "Electrical Engineer" you have no idea how it is distributed. (never normally this harsh but I dunno how to even begin to discuss it with you). |
SO because I'm not an electrical engineer, I can't have an opinion it? I've seen houses with solar panels on the roof. It's already a reality. In California, there is a company which manufactures a special type of solar cell which can be installed on any surface, as long its facing the sun.
| quote: | | Basically many countries have bases in many countries that are not their own so what? The taliban did indeed support the development of many terrorists, don't get me wrong though so have the medrassas in Pakistan. I'm not some American fox news watcher this is a carefully considered policy. Nevermind that 95% of UK heroin comes from there. |
Not able to answer the very direct questions? So many countries have bases in other countries? Please, name them off. Better yet, name a country other than America which has over 700 bases in 130 countries...and then tell me thats not overdoing it.
So tell me how the Taliban, who were still fighting just to take control of Afghanistan (remember the Northern Alliance?), were involved in 9/11, or any other terrorist plots. And did you know that when the Taliban were in power, opium production was basically wiped out? Under the puppet Afghan government, the country has become a narco-state. Well done Bush/Blair, well done.
| quote: | | They are but the institution now of an American NHS would just lead to you guys paying "market rate" why would the private sector want to give you it cheaper? |
I'm very sure a system can be created to bring health costs down, and thus, making insurance more affordable. The Japanese have done it, and I would probably model such a system after them.
| quote: | | Well we are both in the realm of conjecture but I really do think that if you remove the criminalization of people using hard drugs they will be more likely to try it, where is the penalty? |
The penalty is damage to one's health and life. You don't need the government to stick its nose where it doesn't belong and tell people they can't do with their bodies what they want, whilst not hurting anyone else. Our declaration of independence states we have a right to, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Well, people getting high is surely done according to their own liberty and pursuit of happiness by getting high.
| quote: | | Why push more people into the same area though? I do agree with spending on public transit systems though. |
Nobodies being "pushed" into the same area. I think you have a different concept of "downtown" over there in UK than here in America. In America, when we think of "downtown", we think of slums, homeless people, projects, crime, etc. etc. Why? Because all the white people moved to the suburbs in the 1960's, leaving the poor minorities in the "downtown areas", where the areas became crime-ridden and run down. Well, I want to redevelop the "downtown" areas into something where middle to upper class people would like to live. Why shouldn't we do such a thing? Especially when these people commute to downtown skyscrapers from 20-40 miles away in the suburbs.
| quote: | Ok no import tax would mean that everyone would just import their goods at a what 23% discount? (can't remember your numbers)
That REALLY makes no sense. In the internet world why buy from a US website that charges 23% more (or whatever) just because it is in the US. |
Where there is a sale, there is a tax. Except for the sale of alternative energy components. Why have an import tax to begin with? You do that, you start a tariff war, because the other country will likewise, raise its own import tax. What does that do? It stifles trade. |
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| mezzir |
damn
i forgot i was in the ppd for a minute and just voted for lira immediately cause he's cool :p
however, if it matters i'd prefer to vote for george smiley based on actual issues |
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| Krypton |
| I think we have a landslide. |
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| NoError |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Shibby
"Politics... lol." |
Put a fifth option in please, this guy gets my vote. |
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| Krypton |
| I was never good at popularity contests...:( |
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| NoError |
| Claim moral victory? |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
I think we have a landslide. |
Lira rigged the election! |
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