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Leafs trade McCabe to the Panthers for Mike Van Ryn
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| Irishaddict |
| quote: | It's official: Bryan McCabe's career as a Maple Leaf is over.
The team's 33-year-old alternate captain were shipped to the Florida Panthers for 29-year-old defenceman Mike Van Ryn as GM Cliff Fletcher continued his moves to make the team younger and free from onerous salaries.
The Leafs also sent a fourth-round draft pick in 2010 to Florida, who take on the remaining three years of McCabe's contract. While Florida will pay McCabe $4.15 million (all figures U.S.) a year, the defenceman's salary cap hit is $5.75 million.
Van Ryn completed his seventh NHL season and fourth with Florida in 2007-08. A wrist injury in November and the subsequent surgery sidelined him for the final 60 games last season. The native of London, Ont., had only two assists in 20 contests in 2007-08.
He turned professional after signing as a free agent by St. Louis on June 30, 2000 and he was later traded to Florida on March 11, 2003 for Valeri Bure and Florida's fifth-round choice (Nikita Nikitin) in the 2004 entry draft. Van Ryn set career-highs in goals (13), points (37-tie) and power play goals (six) in his first season with the Panthers in 2003-04. Internationally, he represented Canada at the World Junior Championships in 1998 and 1999 and he was a member of the University of Michigan's 1998 NCAA National Championship team.
Last season with Toronto, McCabe recorded five goals and 18 assists in 54 games with 81 penalty minutes. McCabe ranks sixth on the club's all-time scoring list among team defencemen with 297 points by virtue of his 83 goals and 214 assists. He is tied for 33rd on the Leafs' all-time scoring list and he sits in 32nd spot on the team's all-time games played list with 523 games.
In 917 career NHL games with the Islanders, Canucks, Blackhawks and Maple Leafs he has 115 goals and 303 assists for 418 points with 1,574 minutes in penalties.
McCabe was originally acquired by Toronto from Chicago in exchange for Alexander Karpovtsev and the Leafs' fourth-round draft choice (Vladimir Gusev) in the 2001 entry draft. He was the New York Islanders' second choice, 40th overall, in the 1993 entry draft. |
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Good? Bad? Ugly? Discuss.
I agree with the principle of the deal but I will miss McCabe. :( |
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| smuncky |
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ght=maple+leafs
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honestly it doesn't matter if the trade was good or not. mccabe had to go. fletcher said he would make big changes and has kept his word.
are they good changes? no one will know until the season starts and we start to play. we all knew what was going to happen and why it was happening. this is called a rebuilding phase and it doesn't happen over a summer.
looking back though, the leafs clearly got the better side of the deal when traded for karpovtsev. |
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| Irishaddict |
| quote: | Originally posted by smuncky
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ght=maple+leafs
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honestly it doesn't matter if the trade was good or not. mccabe had to go. fletcher said he would make big changes and has kept his word.
are they good changes? no one will know until the season starts and we start to play. we all knew what was going to happen and why it was happening. this is called a rebuilding phase and it doesn't happen over a summer.
looking back though, the leafs clearly got the better side of the deal when traded for karpovtsev. |
ya ya ya whatever internet police ;)
i guess for me it is that there are now cleaning house from the names that were for me the face of the team. i can appreciate the need for it (like... a lot, lol) but at the same time there's a sentimentality to it. it's hard to watch some of these guys go!
and there you have the result of a girl starting a thread about sports, lol. |
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| Sentinal |
| quote: | Originally posted by smuncky
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ght=maple+leafs
honestly it doesn't matter if the trade was good or not. mccabe had to go. fletcher said he would make big changes and has kept his word.
are they good changes? no one will know until the season starts and we start to play. we all knew what was going to happen and why it was happening. this is called a rebuilding phase and it doesn't happen over a summer. |
couldn't have said it better myself. fans will have to remember that the leafs will most likely not make the playoffs for the next couple of years, this is because the young players need to further develop their skills and the leafs management will have to make more difficult choices as to where to build its new assets.
I'm an optimist but more a realist and quite frankly, I would be happy to see the leafs not make the playoffs because honestly that means they are going in the direction for seasons to come. |
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| Abercrombie |
| Laura, publically stating to all guys that she is a hockey babe, has just increased a few points on the hot scale, when it was unfathomable that the scale could get any higher. |
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| smuncky |
| quote: | Originally posted by Irishaddict
ya ya ya whatever internet police ;)
i guess for me it is that there are now cleaning house from the names that were for me the face of the team. i can appreciate the need for it (like... a lot, lol) but at the same time there's a sentimentality to it. it's hard to watch some of these guys go!
and there you have the result of a girl starting a thread about sports, lol. |
i definitely see where you're coming from.
i hate when the new season starts and there are new guys on the team because i've never seen them before, have to learn their names, etc.
what's funny though, is that no captain has been announced yet. i'm betting they'll just go with three A's the whole season because no one on that team is qualified to wear that C.
ps. AJ, +1 to your statement. |
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| Jer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Abercrombie
Laura, publically stating to all guys that she is a hockey babe, has just increased a few points on the hot scale, when it was unfathomable that the scale could get any higher. |
God, you must be awesome for a girl's self-image. LOL
The fans will still show, it's about time Fletcher started delivering. This is a postitive step.. At least that's what I'm telling myself. |
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| UneeK |
McCabe is one of the most overated D in the game....
Van Ryn has very decent offensive skills...The Leafs have loooooong road ahead of them, but it will take time i guess....
Jeff Finger is the man lolol |
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| The Ear |
The fact that they got anything for someone as deterimental to carry on a team as McCabe is a bonus. Let's not forget that the guy's a defensive liability out there without the real offensive prowess to truly make up for it.
Van Ryn will surprise some as he can put points on the board while looking after his own end much better than BM.
Plus they got Brian's whiner attitude out of there as well. The last time this guy won anything was in junior, & that was during the players' strike era when the Canadian Junior team was an all-star team. So he couldn't help but win. Other than that, he's not a winner, never has been, and never will be. |
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| TheVrk |
McCabe's ALWAYS been overrated...
Why? Coz of his offensive abilities, which are evident.
But defensively he's a disaster, and he's a DEFENCEman |
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| Irishaddict |
| quote: | McCabe deal a bad one for Leafs
Quite clearly, the objective was to get rid of Bryan McCabe at any cost.
For reasons not entirely clear, ones beyond his actual play, he had to go.
It wasn't a process designed to improve the Maple Leafs in any way, and don't buy into the business about all the wonderful cap flexibility yesterday's deal gives the club. The Leafs are more than $10 million below the $56.7 million cap and unlikely to be in a logical position to spend heavily on expensive veterans for several years.
McCabe, for all his faults, is a better, more accomplished player than the similarly overpaid Mike Van Ryn, and the fact the Leafs had to throw in a fourth-round pick and pay McCabe's $2 million bonus owed Sept.1 to get the Florida Panthers to do this deal is almost an insult to the ex-Leaf rearguard.
This deal shouldn't make any Leaf fan rejoice. Had McCabe been moved at the trade deadline for a first-round pick, that would have been an impressive achievement.
Yesterday's transaction, however, was only about erasing bad memories.
The inclusion of the draft pick is doubly interesting. Despite all the propaganda from Cliff Fletcher's office that the Leafs are rebuilding from the ground up with youth and through the draft, Fletcher has, in the past three months, made deals in which the club has surrendered seven future draft selections. First, second and third rounders were sacrificed to move up two slots in the draft to acquire the rights to Luke Schenn. Other picks were spent to bring in Jamal Mayers (third rounder), Ryan Hollweg (fifth) and Mikhail Grabovski (second), and the club is already moving picks from the 2010 draft.
Teams intending to build with kids don't dump that many picks. They hoard them and treasure them. So as with all things Maple Leafs, there's a disconnect between the official party line and the actual way in which business in being done.
Draft Schmaft II, perhaps.
McCabe, meanwhile, had come to represent something beyond a defenceman coming off two difficult seasons with three years left on his ridiculously oversized, five-year, $29 million contract.
Along with Mats Sundin, Darcy Tucker and Tomas Kaberle, he symbolized an underachieving veteran Leaf core that had never been able to get the club very far. Tie Domi and Ed Belfour were once part of that core and they were bought out long ago.
To Fletcher, McCabe was a public relations obstacle, an impediment to his vow that the Leafs would be a very different team going into the 2008-09 season.
So McCabe had to go for Fletcher to at least appear to have a plan in place, no matter how good – or bad – the deal.
Now, there's the business ahead of trying to replace McCabe's minutes and contributions. There wasn't a game last year he played in which he skated less than 20 minutes, and somebody – Jeff Finger, Schenn, Jonas Frogren – will have to carry that workload.
Moreover, with Sundin saying yesterday he hasn't the slightest idea when or if he'll be an NHL player again – "We're moving forward as though Mats won't be with us," said Fletcher – the Leafs are also now a team that has been completely stripped of its leadership group.
So the rebuilding will have to take place on the ice and in the dressing room.
Are the Leafs a better team than when Fletcher replaced John Ferguson? Quite obviously they are far less talented.
Is there a clear direction here, a long-term commitment to gradual, intelligent growth?
Given that Fletcher may or may not be the GM after this season, that's impossible to say. If Brian Burke or somebody else takes over next June, there may be a reversal of the current program, which appears to be based on slashing payroll to create the perception of a youth movement while simultaneously trading away draft picks for veterans who might help the club stop short of being a complete embarrassment this season.
Can't imagine McCabe will be heartbroken not to be a part of that. |
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| High on PSI |
McCabe's time was done in Toronto. The team is going in a new direction, and that obviously didnt include him.
That said, we got ripped off in this deal. Mike Van Ryn is coming off very serious wrist surgery and was not subject to a physical to complete the trade.
McCabe is wayyyy better than Van Ryn, and McCabe's mistakes were often thrown out of proportion in Toronto. In this market, fans and media look at the bad, and like history has shown, Toronto runs defensemen out of this city (ie. murphy, berg, and now mccabe). He got the shaft because he hit a home run with his contract. This team will miss him. This trade made our team worse in the short term, but is needed to move in a new direction. |
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