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| RJT |
c0r Summary: If you were going to try and give an 8th grader a solid education in the fundamentals of DJ'ing, how would you do it?
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So I'm taking on a bit of a project right now - the cliffs notes version of it is that a very close friend of our family is going through a messy divorce, and the only child caught in the middle of it (a best friend of my youngest sister) really just needs some distractions, so we're trying to provide them.
He's 13, and very, very interested in DJ'ing and electronic music. He's got a good head on his shoulders as far as being a kid who already knows the difference between Chicago House and Detroit Techno, and really has taken an interest in learning to DJ. He also has what I think is impeccable taste for a young guy - all the more reason to try to get him started.
Normally, I'm not a huge fan of trying to teach like this - it's just difficult for me to convey what to do in terms simple enough for others to learn, but because this kid really does seem enthralled with EDM and DJ'ing, and because I'd like to do my part to help him stay positive through all this, I really want to try and do what I can to show him the ropes.
So basically I need some advice from you all - how would you go about teaching a 13 year old the basics? Obviously beatmatching is one of the first steps - but I really don't know what the best way to approach this all will be, and I figure if I at least got you all talking about it with me, we might be able to sort some decent ideas out.
Cheers. :) |
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| nefardec |
| take him to a good record store and let him go crazy |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
take him to a good record store and let him go crazy |
This is not so much a possibility where I'm from :( |
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| david.michael |
You'd probably approach it different ways depending on if he has any kind of musical background or not.
My younger brother plays saxophone, sang in choir, and has a good musical foundation. He already has a good ear and understands timing/phrasing/etc. I'd probably be able to teach him much more quickly than one of my buddies who have no clue and just wanna be teh sweet DJ. |
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| epdarks |
| I'd get strait to the point... show him your setup, play some jams, teach him a thing or 2, and then let him loose on it. I'm sure he'll love it enough to buy a setup of his own, and then he's home free. |
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| david.michael |
| quote: | Originally posted by epdarks
I'd get strait to the point... show him your setup, play some jams, teach him a thing or 2, and then let him loose on it. I'm sure he'll love it enough to buy a setup of his own, and then he's home free. |
A 13 year old with parents in the middle of a divorce likely doesn't have the resources to get a proper DJ setup.
As such, perhaps consider Traktor as an alternative (if he already has a computer), or just do the "Big Brother" thing and let him keep playing on your equipment for a long time. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by david.michael
You'd probably approach it different ways depending on if he has any kind of musical background or not.
My younger brother plays saxophone, sang in choir, and has a good musical foundation. He already has a good ear and understands timing/phrasing/etc. I'd probably be able to teach him much more quickly than one of my buddies who have no clue and just wanna be teh sweet DJ. |
Yeah - I am really unsure of his musical background, so I guess that'd be a good conversation to have. The nice thing is I *think* he's still completely oblivious to the notion of a "Superstar DJ" - he really only cares about the music, and has only been exposed to kind of lower end/local DJ's, so I really do not think his interest has anything to do with much beyond just loving all sorts of electronic music.
Part of why I'm willing to do this is just because I think he's got real potential to do well at it - he digs for music harder than a lot of working DJ's I know, all without the added baggage of thinking "Would I play this?", as he's only digging for his own enjoyment.
If I can help one kid grow up without having total ing for taste in music, I'll be really, really proud. :p |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by david.michael
A 13 year old with parents in the middle of a divorce likely doesn't have the resources to get a proper DJ setup.
As such, perhaps consider Traktor as an alternative (if he already has a computer), or just do the "Big Brother" thing and let him keep playing on your equipment for a long time. |
Actually, as odd as this may sound, if he got into it I don't think it would take long for his father to get him a setup of his own. His dad is fairly well to do, and really a great father who encourages his kid to pursue whatever it is that will make him happy. I think if he saw that his kid was committed to playing (i.e. I definitely plan on just letting him use my decks whenever while this all gets sorted out), it wouldn't take much for him to get his own little initial setup. :) |
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| KiNeTiC ENeRgY |
| Lol...are u serious? Maybe u should get him involved in another hobby, like rock climbing, or something related to where u live. At 13, I would not be pushing a young boy into the DJ world. With his background, he needs a more positive environment. |
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| david.michael |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
Actually, as odd as this may sound, if he got into it I don't think it would take long for his father to get him a setup of his own. His dad is fairly well to do, and really a great father who encourages his kid to pursue whatever it is that will make him happy. I think if he saw that his kid was committed to playing (i.e. I definitely plan on just letting him use my decks whenever while this all gets sorted out), it wouldn't take much for him to get his own little initial setup. :) |
Bonus. :) |
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| Djeebie |
There's not one way to do this ofcourse. If I were you I would just start listening to tracks with him and find out together what tracks he likes and are fun to begin with (e.g. simple beat/bass structures for beatmatching). And then just go and play. Let him see what the mixer does, how pitching works, what cueing is and how it works and why. And also for the beatmatching part, ofcourse show with two faders open how tracks are aligned so that he can hear the difference between trainwrecking and getting tracks to play the same tempo.
And be sure to stay away from the jesus pose :p But hey, if he's already into it and I know you are then just go with it. If he has talent he'll be mixing right away :) |
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| david.michael |
| quote: | Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
Lol...are u serious? Maybe u should get him involved in another hobby, like rock climbing, or something related to where u live. At 13, I would not be pushing a young boy into the DJ world. With his background, he needs a more positive environment. |
DJing is not inherently negative. I find it QUITE positive and therapeutic, myself.
Considering the attitude the kid already has towards it, I think it's a great idea. |
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