Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
She is a very good bullter, or at least better than me.
She answered the questions very quickly without much pause or stumbling.
lol
the best bullter in politics is the one who wins the whitehouse for 4 years
Spacey Orange
holy crap. it's george bush with a vagina!
Lilith
If this rank amateur/excuse for a politician gets in, the yanks are so stuffed its not funny... so, so stuffed.
Meat187
From what I hear McCain / Palin are leading in the current polls.
*points and laughs at America*
delobbo
someone pinch me..... did she say "you can see Russia from Alaska"??? WTF
also... stolen from another area of TA... GO GO REFORM!!!!!!
awesome reformer.
hooknife
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Originally posted by placebo
she's irritating
I agree.
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
She is a very good bullter, or at least better than me.
She answered the questions very quickly without much pause or stumbling.
no ing way. she didn't even answer most of the questions. and the questions she did kinda answer displayed a horrible sense of understanding for just about everything. i actually felt a little sorry for her, or maybe it was just me feeling uncomfortable coz she was so .
she is completely incapable of acting in the office of the president of the USA and any american that even thinks of voting for her is an idiot.
delobbo
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
no ing way. she didn't even answer most of the questions. and the questions she did kinda answer displayed a horrible sense of understanding for just about everything. i actually felt a little sorry for her, or maybe it was just me feeling uncomfortable coz she was so .
she is completely incapable of acting in the office of the president of the USA and any american that even thinks of voting for her is an idiot.
Curious how you feel about the claims that Obama is not qualified for the job....?
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by delobbo
Curious how you feel about the claims that Obama is not qualified for the job....?
obama is far far sharper when talking about the same issues than she could ever be. i don't care if obama's job description was picking up roadkill, he demonstrates far greater political acumen.
she's a ing creationist for s sake. that's all that needs to be said about her capacity for critical thought.
delobbo
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
obama is far far sharper when talking about the same issues than she could ever be. i don't care if obama's job description was picking up roadkill, he demonstrates far greater political acumen.
she's a ing creationist for s sake. that's all that needs to be said about her capacity for critical thought.
good to know :)
I agree. Although there are times when Obama trips up his tongue, as well as other politicians, but not nearly as bad as the other side. Biden tripped up pretty bad a few times this week too.. did you hear the bit about the wheelchair.. gee.. made me cringe..
Lebezniatnikov
As a student of foreign policy, Fallows enunciates exactly what terrified me about that interview:
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The Palin interview
12 Sep 2008 09:01 am
It is embarrassing to have to spell this out, but for the record let me explain why Gov. Palin's answer to the "Bush Doctrine" question -- the only part of the recent interview I have yet seen over here in China -- implies a disqualifying lack of preparation for the job.
Not the mundane job of vice president, of course, which many people could handle. Rather the job of potential Commander in Chief and most powerful individual on earth.
The spelling-out is lengthy, but I've hidden most of it below the jump.
Each of us has areas we care about, and areas we don't. If we are interested in a topic, we follow its development over the years. And because we have followed its development, we're able to talk and think about it in a "rounded" way. We can say: Most people think X, but I really think Y. Or: most people used to think P, but now they think Q. Or: the point most people miss is Z. Or: the question I'd really like to hear answered is A.
Here's the most obvious example in daily life: Sports Talk radio.
Mention a name or theme -- Brett Favre, the Patriots under Belichick, Lance Armstrong's comeback, Venus and Serena -- and anyone who cares about sports can have a very sophisticated discussion about the ins and outs and myth and realities and arguments and rebuttals.
People who don't like sports can't do that. It's not so much that they can't identify the names -- they've heard of Armstrong -- but they've never bothered to follow the flow of debate. I like sports -- and politics and tech and other topics -- so I like joining these debates. On a wide range of other topics -- fashion, antique furniture, (gasp) the world of restaurants and fine dining, or (gasp^2) opera -- I have not been interested enough to learn anything I can add to the discussion. So I embarrass myself if I have to express a view.
What Sarah Palin revealed is that she has not been interested enough in world affairs to become minimally conversant with the issues. Many people in our great land might have difficulty defining the "Bush Doctrine" exactly. But not to recognize the name, as obviously was the case for Palin, indicates not a failure of last-minute cramming but a lack of attention to any foreign-policy discussion whatsoever in the last seven years.
Two details in Charles Gibson's posing of the question were particularly telling. One was the potentially confusing way in which he first asked it. On the page, "the Bush Doctrine" looks different from "the Bush doctrine." But when hearing the question Palin might not have known whether Gibson was referring to the general sweep of Administration policy -- doctrine with small d -- or the rationale that connected 9/11 with the need to invade Iraq, the capital-D Doctrine. So initial confusion would be understandable -- as if a sports host asked about Favre's chances and you weren't sure if he meant previously with the Packers or with the Jets. Once Gibson clarified the question, a person familiar with the issue would have said, "Oh, if we're talking about the strategy that the President and Condoleezza Rice began laying out in 2002...." There was no such flash of recognition.
The other was Gibson's own minor mis-statement. American foreign policy has long recognized the concept of preemptive action: if you know somebody is just about to attack you, there's no debate about the legitimacy of acting first. (This is like "shooting in self-defense.") The more controversial part of The Bush Doctrine was the idea of preventive war: acting before a threat had fully emerged, on the theory that waiting until it was fully evident would mean acting too late.
Gibson used the word "preemptively" -- but if a knowledgeable person had pushed back on that point ("Well, preemption has was what John F. Kennedy had in mind in acting against the imminent threat of Soviet missiles in Cuba"), Gibson would certainly have come back to explain the novelty of the "preventive war" point. Because he knows the issue, a minor mis-choice of words wouldn't get in the way of his real intent.
Sarah Palin did not know this issue, or any part of it. The view she actually expressed -- an endorsement of "preemptive" action -- was fine on its own merits. But it is not the stated doctrine of the Bush Administration, it is not the policy her running mate has endorsed, and it is not the concept under which her own son is going off to Iraq.
How could she not know this? For the same reason I don't know anything about European football/soccer standings, trades, or intrigue. I am not interested enough. And she evidently has not been interested enough even to follow the news of foreign affairs during the Bush era.
A further point. The truly toxic combination of traits GW Bush brought to decision making was:
1) Ignorance
2) Lack of curiosity
3) "Decisiveness"
That is, he was not broadly informed to begin with (point 1). He did not seek out new information (#2); but he nonetheless prided himself on making broad, bold decisions quickly, and then sticking to them to show resoluteness.
We don't know about #2 for Palin yet -- she could be a sponge-like absorber of information. But we know about #1 and we can guess, from her demeanor about #3. Most of all we know something about the person who put her in this untenable role.
typing as i watch, lol at gibson or whatshisface calling it hubris saying she was ready without doubting herself at all :haha:
also, good lord she's worth than i thought :crap:
her whole thing about not blinking when you have to make tough decisions...NO. In fact, those knee-jerk reactions are practically the signature of the old guard of the party, the same people you're trying to say you're so different from
ugh
